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May 09, 2022

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Thanks for the info Charles.

I've gotten hung up a couple times the past week. Shutting the tab and opening a new one seemed to help. Sometimes. Don't know if that's dispositive.

Same here. But this has happened occasionally in the past, so I did not think about it too much (and it was back to normal soon).

An appeals court panel ruled on Wednesday that California’s ban on the sale of semiautomatic weapons to adults under the age of 21 violated the right to bear arms found in the Second Amendment of the Constitution.

Wasn't the original intent that the right of the people to keep and bear muzzle-loading muskets shall not be infringed?

And the text says nothing at all about armor despite arms&armor being a standard combo. So body armor is clearly not covered (pun not intended) by the 2nd Amendment. And since all clothing can serve as that, there must be a right to bare arms, so people do not run afoul of the armor ban.
On the other hand, how is the right to bear arms not infringed by bans on bear hunting?

Perhaps we maintain the right to bear arms as including anything, but ban ammunition. Including empty shells, for the benefit of home reloaders.

Iirc the supreme court has anticipated that move and declared it unconstitutional. It would be silly not to close loopholes on a right to shoot holes into things. Or - actually - natural persons. Shooting holes into things* could violate property rights.

* which used to include humans owned by other humans. I wonder if banks could claim shot (small**) debtors as damaged property.

**if you owe the bank enough you own the bank

Shooting holes into things* could violate property rights.

Years ago the company I worked for acquired the cable television franchise in the Atlanta, GA area from its former owner. We had to change the software that tracked trouble tickets to include "amplifier shot". Someone shooting an analog amplifier suspended on the aerial coaxial cable was the leading cause of service outages in Atlanta.

Not particularly serious query: does the "right to bear arms" invalidate all laws and regulations restricting the killing bears?

With this Supreme Court, who knows what their seances would reveal about the Founders original intent....

So if abortion is banned in FL, could a woman aborting a fetus claim self-defense under FL's stand your ground law?

So if abortion is banned in FL, could a woman aborting a fetus claim self-defense under FL's stand your ground law?

If it threatened her life, for example an ectopic pregnancy, she'd have a darn good case. Although, since they have a "life of the mother" exception (so far), they'd be unlikely to bring charges. Unless they decide they're in a competition for nastiest law, in which case they might remove all exceptions. (Wonder if, at the same time, they'll change the "stand your ground" law to explicitly block that defense.)

I've wondered before if women could defend abortion on those grounds in a state with castle doctrine laws. As property goes, there's not much more propre than one's own person.

Nope, to my knowledge that is explicitly not included. At least some Jews complained about that since in Jewish theology and law an unborn that threatens the life or health of the mother is classified as a 'rodef', a hostile persuer, that it is fully legitimate to defend oneself against with deadly force up to the moment of birth. Once the head is outside the body of the mother, the child is considered born and has equal rights to the mother.
Btw, during the one-child-only policy in China many kids were killed by state doctors at this very point (iirc by driving a spike into the emerging head of the 'illegal' baby). So, this is not just an academic question.
The Jews in question especially complained that the figleaf of 'Judaeo-Christian' was used to justify the abortion ban without even consulting Jews about their actual traditions and customs.
What they did not mention (to my knowledge at least) in this context is that the Jewish abortionist doctor is a traditional antisemitic trope. Btw, the Roman historian Tacitus accused the Jews of being fanatical anti-abortionists and came close to a 'great replacement' conspiracy theory.

When the Chinese Communists took power they encouraged having more children. Then, after killing 60 million people, they decided they still had too many people and set the one-child-only policy with its forced abortions and forced sterilizations.

Now that they decided there're not enough children, they're encouraging a higher birth rate. Which, in time, may lead to forced pregnancies and contraception and sterilization being illegal.

the Roman historian Tacitus accused the Jews of being fanatical anti-abortionists

Did he? My recollection, backed up by several seconds' online research, is that accused the Jews of being fanatically opposed to infanticide. Which, to be fair, they were.

backed up by several seconds' online research

LOL. And frankly, who could ask for more, in these troubled and demanding times? Although, on past experience, I wouldn't put it past Hartmut to come back with more, and more detailed, evidence!

The Chinese Communist Party has repeatedly demonstrated its ignorance of everything from basic demographics to human nature. Makes it hard to predict what idiocy they will come up with next.

My guess is that they will deal with their unfortunate population age distribution in the most straightforward way possible: killing off everyone (except senior Party officials, of course) past the age where they are productively employed. Or, perhaps more simple-minded and thus more likely, set some arbitrary maximum age.

With very little in the way of pensions and social programs for the elderly and too few children to support them, a lot of the elderly may just die prematurely of "natural causes."

Pro Bono, you're technically correct that Tacitus speaks of the killing of already born children.
But given the terms he uses and the reason he gives, it strongly implies that he is talking about spiritually the same thing as abortion (in this case the 'post-natal birth control' favored by Romans and Greeks). I see the main difference in that an abortion is usually on the female's initiative while the legal infanticide is decided on by the assumed father (with no input from the birthing female*). Again, technically any Roman kid not formally accepted by the father at birth was supposed to be done away with. The Roman and Greek patriarchy preferred infanticide over abortion because the men wanted control** (and additionally abortions could endanger the woman's fertility). But the actual purpose was the same. Roman law made kids that were accepted by their fathers sacrosanct up to the moment they donned the toga virilis. So, Tacitus can only mean infanticide directly after birth as a method of abortion/birth control/getting rid of an unwanted child, otherwise there would have been nothing 'immoral' to charge the Jews with.
I would have to look it up, if kids were considered legally as persons at all before the father lifted up the newborn that had been put before him on the ground for inspection followed by acceptance or rejection. If this was not the case, a distinction between abortion and infanticide (directly following birth) would have no meaning from the POV then.
What's absolutely clear is that Tacitus sees Jewish opposition to 'not having the kid' as part of a perfidious plan of outcompeting other peoples in population growth in order to gain power (while civilized people aimed for keeping the population numbers as constant as possible). That idea lays also at the base of modern 'great replacement' propaganda. Btw, it's interesting that Tacitus also reports that the Jews were not originally a people but a collection of unrelated humans kicked out of Egypt for suffering from a disfiguring disease (and were also habitually lazy, making up their whole religion to justify that fact). The guy would feel right at home ideologically with modern antisemites.

*as a purely technical term. Please do not confuse with the current culture war's talking points.

**according to Cicero the 'crime' of abortion was essentially theft of an heir from the father by the woman not the fact that a person was killed. The father had the undisputed right to decide over life and death, so he could order an abortion freely.

Thanks Hartmut, I'll settle for technically correct.

Tacitus may not have cared much about the difference between abortion and infanticide, but Jewish law, probably first written contemporaneously with Tacitus, makes an emphatic distinction - it allows abortion up to the point of birth to save the mother's life, but forbids infanticide once the greater part of the child has emerged (Mishnah Oholot 7).

a perfidious plan of outcompeting other peoples in population growth in order to gain power (while civilized people aimed for keeping the population numbers as constant as possible). That idea lays also at the base of modern 'great replacement' propaganda.

And possibly at the root of modern (as opposed to ancient) opposition to abortion.** Wouldn't want mere females deciding to constrain the population of Real Americans.

** And why contraception may be next.

When the Chinese Communists took power they encouraged having more children. Then, after killing 60 million people, they decided they still had too many people and set the one-child-only policy with its forced abortions and forced sterilizations.

Now that they decided there're not enough children, they're encouraging a higher birth rate. Which, in time, may lead to forced pregnancies and contraception and sterilization being illegal.

Jeez, that's bad, you mean it was exactly the same people who did that? Thank god all of our sins were done by other people in the past.

I'm re-reading Joyce's Ulysses, this time with lots of critical help, but never mind you that.

I came across this article ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/magazine/the-strange-case-of-the-missing-joyce-scholar.html

..... which reads like a pitch by Werner Herzog for a film about the obsessives HE obsesses over .. and which illustrates the critical rabbit holes Joyce scholars dive into headfirst, which Joyce himself arranged for them and predicted, but never mind you that either, though it is an entertaining tale.

No, my point is this passage in the article ...

"In that stretch when the original edition fell out of copyright in the mid-1990s, a lot of editors rushed to publish their own editions. Some have dots, some don’t. Some with “love,” some not. Some editors reversed a selection of Gabler’s changes, some didn’t. Other editions have gone off the rails, as the Joyce scholar Sam Slote told me: One “Ulysses,” currently available online, has a long, weird riff inserted on Page 160, announcing that you will now be reading “The Secret Confessions of a Conservative,” where the anonymous writer explains that his pro-life, pro-death-penalty positions are so consistent that “if an embryo or fetus commits murder, then he should be aborted.”

.... there you have it. A conservative libertarian crypto-religious death cult movement which has crawled up its own ass seeking a sociopathic, malign consistency and perverse fascist rationality beyond all satire and petition by the usual human methods and thinks it has recognized an ultimate perverted truth among the platonic shadows up its own shit caves and now lives there blinking in absolute certainty in the shit darkness, and the world and we are forced now to live there up conservatism's ass as well.

Just thought I'd share.

Ergo:

https://johnganz.substack.com/p/the-plotters-against-america?s=w&sd=fs

Hat tip LGM.

They are going to murder us.

I'm re-reading Joyce's Ulysses, this time with lots of critical help, but never mind you that.

I tried reading Ulysses one time in college. After being assigned Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man for a class. As I told my professor, both suffered from the same problem: "Joyce simple didn't know how to handle the English language." He did not take it well. (Perhaps he was in denial...?)

"(Perhaps he was in denial...?)"

Perhaps, but which one of you might one day suffer from Agenbite of Inwit at the beauty you missed?

%-}

"Yes, the newspapers were right: snow was general all over Ireland. It was falling softly upon the Bog of Allen and, further westwards, softly falling into the dark mutinous Shannon waves. It was falling too upon every part of the lonely churchyard where Michael Furey lay buried. It lay thickly drifted on the crooked crosses and headstones, on the spears of the little gate, on the barren thorns. His soul swooned slowly as he heard the snow falling faintly through the universe and faintly falling, like the descent of their last end, upon all the living and the dead."

The Dead
James Joyce


A passage from A Portrait of the Artist As A Young Man:

“The phrase and the day and the scene harmonized in a chord. Words. Was it their colours? He allowed them to glow and fade, hue after hue: sunrise gold, the russet and green of apple orchards, azure of waves, the greyfringed fleece of clouds. No it was not their colours: it was the poise and balance of the period itself. Did he then love the rhythmic rise and fall of words better than their associations of legend and colour? Or was it that, being as weak of sight as he was shy of mind, he drew less pleasure from the reflection of the glowing sensible world through the prism of a language manycoloured and richly storied than from the contemplation of an inner world of individual emotions mirrored perfectly in a lucid supple periodic prose?”
― James Joyce, A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man


The final lines, quoted verbatim of Molly Bloom's soliloquy, from the movie version of "Ulysses" entitled "Bloom":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii_aZ6djNkM

Briefly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL_rXp-T4tc

From the lips themselves:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhW0TrzWGmI

OT:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#/media/File:2019_Gun_ownership_rates_and_gun_homicide_rates_-_developed_world_-_scatter_plot.svg

A kidney for your thoughts:

https://biblioklept.org/2010/11/23/james-joyces-burnt-kidney-breakfast/

Regarding guns, before we take them, it's not so much the absolute numbers of gun killings in America, it's that America is shooting the wrong people:

https://digbysblog.net/2022/05/17/reporting-on-the-jockey-not-the-horse/

The real Bell Curve in America is the one that diagrams the utter full of shitness of the fucking cucks monopolizing the apex, while the rest of us are gunned down while grocery shopping and attending school:

https://www.eschatonblog.com/2022/05/a-life-unlived.html

@hsh -- You can put incarceration rates next to gun deaths. I'm too busy/lazy to do it, but I'd like to see both those numbers over, say, the last century.

@wj -- "Joyce simple didn't know how to handle the English language." ... I can't even. ;-)

So wj, what's your stance on Faulkner and the English language?

wj, drop by and have a pint:

https://hammer.ucla.edu/programs-events/2022/bloomsday-2022

Faulkner's birthday is September 24, for those perhaps into the heavy lifting required.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/as-faulkner-lay-drinking

"Joyce simple didn't know how to handle the English language."

noone beat me to it with the last lines of The Dead, which was called by T S Eliot "one of the greatest short stories ever written". I would also add that John Huston's film of it, starring his daughter Anjelica, is very fine.

Janie, never tried Faulkner. Perhaps blame my college professor (the one who assigned Joyce, but not Faulkner).

Or are you suggesting that all the modern eriters of "Great Books" are equally poor,,,?

Also, on something of a foodie tangent, someone I knew once was writing a book on offal, and looking for literary references, so I pointed them to Leopold Bloom's breakfast kidney. Also Lampedusa's wonderful description in The Leopard of the towering macaroni pie, of which:

The burnished gold of the crusts, the fragrance of the sugar and cinnamon they exuded, were but preludes to the delights released from the interior when the knife broke the crust; first came a spice-laden haze, then chicken livers, hard boiled eggs, sliced ham, chicken and truffles in masses of piping hot, glistening macaroni to which the meat juice gave an exquisite hue of suede.

Stanley Tucci made a version of this dish, first in the movie Big Night, and more recently with Jay Rayner, one of our best restaurant reviewers.

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2021/oct/17/the-day-i-cooked-timpano-with-stanley-tucci-jay-rayner

Or are you suggesting that all the modern eriters of "Great Books" are equally poor,,,?

Not generalizing. Also, though I know you're joking, not suggesting that any of them are poor writers, never mind all of them.

Faulkner and Joyce are glorious, but they require some work, and some acclimatization.

I would throw in Dickens and George Eliot, who aren't modern, but whose books I open up sometimes just to rest in the beauty of those gorgeous, complex, well-structured sentences.

Embodying a complex thought train in well-structured prose: not entirely unlike writing an elegant bit of computer code.............

wj - I think you are confusing the job of the literature professor with the job of the librarian. A lit professor's job is to model how to be a better, more conscious reader. It's the librarian's job to be the literary matchmaker.

For which, gods bless librarians.

Perhaps this will help elucidate my taste in books: I think it is manifest, from reading both, that Archie Goodwin is a vastly better writer than Rex Stout. (Sorry if this is unhelpful to those who have never encountered Nero Wolfe.) Really. Read both and you'll see the difference.

@wj -- well, that accounts for a lot of the flavor and trajectory of some ObWi discussions. ;-)

... in the ships passing in the night sense....

That and the fact that I'm still the token (real) conservative here. Not a reactionary or a Trump cultist**, but still, I believe, a conservative. (Hey, it's a rough job, but somebody's got to do it!)

** And Charles has the libertarian angle covered.

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