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January 05, 2021

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Goddammit, I feel like I need to get in my car and drive to North Carolina and make Cleek a MckTini.

Donald Trump fomented violent insurrection and rioting in the US Capitol, injured human beings, mostly cops, and teargas is wafting thru the chambers.

I hope the tear gas doesn't interfere with the savage caning of Ted Cruz and company during the next quorum.

The White House, under Donald Trump just announced the National Guard is being called in to out down the insurrection.

You see how this thug works, now? He gets his logo all over everything on both sides of the street.

He must be executed. His entire family must be executed. Ted Cruz must be executed. All 75 million of his enablers must be executed.

America does not go forward without those executions as a minimum requirement.

But, her emails. I know. We can't have everything.

Fuck all of us for permitting this travesty.

Charles: "I would have accepted gridlock, but THIS?"

Never yank a bandaid off an armed motherfucker.


Yes, that started to become clear when, a few weeks after the election, he didn't just shut up and go sulk.

(...)

Foolishly, I thought he'd eventually give up. Missed that one by miles.

Same here. I thought he would withdraw and be mopey. He's a madman.

P.S. I want a MckTini!

McTX: If the Repubs can't eat crow and admit it was wrong to follow DT (as step one), what next?

Hell if I know, McKinney.

I think a lot depends on whether "independents" and Libertarians(TM) end up renouncing Satan and all His works, or whether such people keep believing that "policy" can be separate from "personality".

The MAGAts have to be made pariahs in civil society, whatever their "policy" preferences may be. Democrats, alone and unaided, can't make that happen.

--TP

One rioter, sitting in Mike Pence's seat in the Senate chamber, declared Trump the winner of the election.

Ok, this is as likely as Diane Lane calling to ask me out to dinner and my wife telling me to have fun, but really, if Adolf doesn't stand up and say, "Ok, dammit, I lost. Everybody stand down and get back to being Americans", how does this end, and to that point, does it end?

If he continues to claim the office, I'm not sure it does end.

Then what? The fuckers don't wear uniforms. How do you spot them? They don't all have bad teeth.

Did I just imagine I wrote cleek's 3:35 pm comment and put his name on it accidentally?

Biden speaking like a president: "A president's words can inspire, or they can incite."

Challenges Trump to go on TV and tell the rioters to stand down and go home. We shall see.

Biden also said what happened this afternoon "borders" on sedition.

Already, the ham sandwich goes all Cheez-Wiz on us.

Close THAT border once and for all.

First time ever.

Do these people really want a war? They're likely to get one.

If he continues to claim the office, I'm not sure it does end.

No, it ends. Because it can't continue.

It either ends by them giving this shit up, or it ends by them going to jail or getting shot, or it ends by the country falling apart.

But one way or another it ends.

This shit is unacceptable.

P.S. I want a MckTini!

And you shall have one! Next time I'm in NJ, I'm going to make that happen. Unfortunately, I don't get to NC.

The MAGAts have to be made pariahs in civil society, whatever their "policy" preferences may be.

I'm afraid that something like this is going to be necessary. There is a brief window--I'd say from about 10 this morning until 5 minutes ago--for people to say, "Ok, fuck you guys, I didn't sign on for this. I'm out, kiss my ass, stay the fuck out of my yard and never send me another fucking email ever again." I'm ok with people getting it if they get it right now. No waiting to see how things turn out. Either fess up and turn over a new leaf or be an outcast.

"How do you spot them?"

They have names. You know where they are.

Dan Patrick. Ken Paxton. Louis Gohmert (he actually does have bad teeth), Ted Cruz.

Heck, look around. Half the state is them and the same is true across the country.

You could use a shotgun and have a 50% chance of identifying them.

Wow, when McKinney turns, he turns big. Bravo McKinney, I raise a theoretical MckTini to you!

And to the fact that Ossoff has just been confirmed to win, by more than.5%.

how does this end, and to that point, does it end?

If he continues to claim the office, I'm not sure it does end.

It ends by having those who rioted imprisoned. And with Trump (and others, e.g. Guilliani, various Fox commenters, etc.) getting charged with "inciting to riot." Basically, actions need to have consequences. First, to those who have broken the law. And second, to discourage those who might be inclined to do anything similar in the future.

P.S. I saw something about a similar invasion having happen to the Kansas legislature. Guess it was too far to get to DC for them.

Goddammit, I feel like I need to get in my car and drive to North Carolina and make Cleek a MckTini.

heh.

cheers anyway!

it's quittin time for me.

Except BobbyP. Commie sandbagger who most likely manicures his handicap. He scares me.

I am under a vow to be nice, and now with the onset of this thing called "old age" my game is going to shit. But yes, issues, not personalities are what matter.

Go in peace, buddy.

Trump is now speaking, calling on his followers to go home. But he can't stay on message (no surprise), and has segued to talking about the stolen election.

Trump just released a one-minute video, ostensibly begging people to be peaceful and go home, but repeating again that the election was stolen and everybody knows it. It would be unbelievable, if it wasn't so believable...

Snap!

But one way or another it ends.

I hope you're right. I could see a semi-permanent festering. Yes, it would eventually end, but we'll be a different country. And probably not a better one.

Shit, I started here this morning, feeling shitty because I was worried about getting along with people who, as of yesterday, truly believe the election was stolen. Because I think that is batshit crazy beyond words, I was worried about losing friends with my big mouth. Now we're talking about losing the country. Probably won't happen, but Russell's link sure brings a person up short.

Going forward, he should be called Adolf Trump.

I object. He is and always be a wanna-be at best. Benito at reduced brain capacity is what he at best can aspire to (and still failing). The guy is basically a coward* and a petulant child. We should call ourselves fortunate for that. Otherwise there would be an actual civil war and his side would very likely be winning.
That does not mean that he is not dangerous or can't still do lots of harm.

*just imagine him actually leading the mob storming the Capitol. The mere idea is absurd.

I was thinking about a half an hour ago that tRump would tell everyone to calm down but not go as far as to reverse himself on the stolen election. For an unpredictable madman, he's awfully predictable.

Wow, when McKinney turns, he turns big. Bravo McKinney, I raise a theoretical MckTini to you!

Thanks, but you're not seeing me "turn." You're seeing me completely, no shit furious at what that motherfucker has turned this country into. I assure you, if we ever get back to more or less civilized discussions on policy, taxes, lefty trends in social engineering, etc, you'll recognize me.

But, I'd like to hang on to my country and what we are seeing is the kind of thing that--I'm not kidding--if it were happening in my neighborhood, I'd be locked and loaded. I am not down with civil insurrection, I don't care who is doing the burning.

Go in peace, buddy.

And you, amigo. Have you tried moving up a tee box?

I object. He is and always be a wanna-be at best. Benito at reduced brain capacity is what he at best can aspire to (and still failing).

Objection sustained, and point taken on Benito. How about: IL Douche?

From Bill Kristol:

What should happen in the next 24 hours:
1. Clear the Capitol—as peacefully as possible, but in any case remove the mob from the seat of the legislative branch of our government.
2. Reconvene and finish counting the electoral votes.
3. Impeach in the House, convict in the Senate.

Others are raising the 25th Amendment.

This isn't going to end well.

Objection sustained, and point taken on Benito. How about: IL Douche?

LOL.

When I said you had turned, I was thinking of your being prepared to treat MAGAts like pariahs. I remember having an (uncharacteristically) sharp disagreement with you about Sarah Huckabee Sanders (whom many of us see as one of the early enablers of this denial of reality) being treated like a pariah in public. But fair enough,I'm disappointed but I won't assume your tolerance of it extends much beyond those who are engaging in "civil insurrection" (although presumably mainly seditious, democracy-challenging insurrection?)

From Bill Kristol:

Well, number 4 would be "belatedly send Bill Kristol to the Hague", but I guess he has enough on his plate at the moment.

From:
https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1346934098384793606

I wonder how many "Constitutional Sheriffs" have a hand in this noxious fucking piece of work.

I stand by what I wrote not too long ago about a shadow army and widespread unrest being our likely future.

This is it.

But fair enough,I'm disappointed but I won't assume your tolerance of it extends much beyond those who are engaging in "civil insurrection" (although presumably mainly seditious, democracy-challenging insurrection?)

For me, the bright line is whether, after today, you fail to condemn Il Douche for not conceding the election today and bringing this sedition to an end. If Il Douche still pretends to be president and if people support that, they are outside society.

Nous, I thought you were paranoid. Now, I hope you were merely wrong. We still disagree about a ton of other stuff, just so that you don't get all teary-eyed.

What should happen in the next 24 hours:
1. Clear the Capitol—as peacefully as possible, but in any case remove the mob from the seat of the legislative branch of our government.
2. Reconvene and finish counting the electoral votes.
3. Impeach in the House, convict in the Senate.

Others are raising the 25th Amendment.

I'd agree with the caveat that those being cleared from the Capitol should be cleared to the DC jail. There's no real prospect of accidently sweeping up innocent bystanders in this. Anyone inside should be arrested and charged.

Happily, a Capitol staffer grabbed the envelopes of Electoral Votes, so the mob didn't get their hands on those. Not that the known results couldn't be replicated if necessary. But it saves a step.

I'd go with the 25th Amendment, simply because it's faster than Impeachment could be. Although I do wonder if there are enough non-Trump-sycophants in the cabinet to make that possible.

Perhaps a little music to clear the Capitol with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf6jon96EKY

Just to remind the insurrectionists how this worked out for their ideological ancestors.

I remember when the "left" tried, but failed miserably, to levitate the Pentagon....but this? Wow. Just wow.

Words fail.

Remember today the next time a winger starts the spittle flecked lecture on "law and order".

Have you tried moving up a tee box?

That's not where the problem lies (as it were), but it's on the bucket list.

Solidarity

I am drawing up Articles of Impeachment.

Donald J. Trump should be impeached by the House of Representatives & removed from office by the United States Senate.

We can’t allow him to remain in office, it’s a matter of preserving our Republic and we need to fulfill our oath.

the fact that it's from Ilhan Omar is just gravy.

I've been following C-Span for hours. They have done what they can to relay developments since the House and Senate got ...adjourned by the MAGAts. For the past hour or more they have been taking calls like they do when the House is not in session.

And of course they have been taking calls from MAGAts proclaiming that the rioters were all Antifa and BLM, and Republicans would never do such a thing because they are Christians, and He, Trump is the best President evah!

The prion disease injected into the feeble brains of The Deplorables by the Right-Wing Noise Machine without a peep of protest from GOP "policy" makers, for decades, is the real pandemic now threatening the US.

--TP

Calling my Senators and Rep to ask them to publicly call for removal. Don't really care whether it's by 25th or impeachment.

And of course they have been taking calls from MAGAts proclaiming that the rioters were all Antifa and BLM

the pictures of the mob in front of the Senate door all show a guy dressed like some kind of Braveheart / Viking.

and here he is at the top of a AZ Central article from Oct about Qanon, holding a sign that says "Q sent me"

Larison wants Trump impeached (no surprise there) but so does Dreher.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/trump-weimar-america-maga-mob-capitol/

Hell, even Andy Ngo ( not high on my list of people I trust) seems shocked.

I am probably being overly optimistic and will take this back in a few days or weeks, but maybe this is the event that finally shames some Republicans into facing the idiocy they have supported.

Actually, people being what they are, it will have to be done in some face saving kind of way. Maybe something like “ yeah, the Democrats stole the election but we have to go through the courts and not endorse mob violence because we are better than that”. Something like that might happen.

“ yeah, the Democrats stole the election but we have to go through the courts and not endorse mob violence because we are better than that”.

Sounds like a very close rendering of House Minority Leader McCarthy's remarks earlier.

maybe this is the event that finally shames some Republicans into facing the idiocy they have supported

Perhaps, and perhaps not. But what it really needs to do is shame Fox et al, by showing them the consequences of their reality-denial project. Someone I know monitors Fox News quite often, she said that in the day after Trump's recent call to Raffensperger when every other channel had the story on wall-to-wall, non-stop, Fox barely mentioned it, and then only a couple of times in the day.

Latest call to invoke the 25th Amendment. From the National Association of Manufacturers (well-known lefties that they all are).

Trump brings this to an end by conceding and telling everyone to go home.

My first reaction as an authoritarian was just shoot them.

But I watched all day and mostly those people stood around and waved signs and chanted.

I'm more inclined to worry, as I'm sure the police are, that some of the people who did get inside had explosives.

But they could still shoot the ones on the balcony.

But no one of significance supported the armed overthrow of the government. There's that.

Two more weeks.

Trump brings this to an end by conceding and telling everyone to go home.

Other than the video statement, the only person more invisible than Trump today is McConnell. We've seen more (and better) comment from President Bush than from Trump. Just can't see Trump doing that.

The woman who was shot in the Capitol has reportedly died from her wounds.

Anyone who is surprised by any of this hasn't been paying attention. IMO.

Another day that will live in infamy. Throw this bastard out.

The spirit of 76 lives

https://twitter.com/KevOnStage/status/1346937897060945920

I think they deleted the film clip on the tweet I just posted, I am guessing so the woman can’t be easily identified.

And now Twitter has locked Trump's account. For 12 hours, and to be extended if he doesn't take down 2 tweets from earlier which incite to violence.

Better late than never, I suppose. (Can Trump live without being able to tweet?)

FFS, somebody post a few pics for Marty's benefit.

--TP

FFS, somebody post a few pics for Marty's benefit.

decline.

Anyone who is surprised by any of this hasn't been paying attention. IMO.

true dat.

he's been leading up to this since before he took office.

Well, just took a little insurrection to make us go all kumbaya here. So there's that.

I admit that I have a nasty, suspicious mind sometimes. And I doubt that Trump has the mental ability to form such a plan. But consider.

What we have seen today was/is an insurrection -- a term that I have heard used several times today by people who actually know the law. Which would allow President Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act. Which, in his mind, might be a way to use the military (which he thinks belongs to him) to overturn or nullify the election. It wouldn't work, because the military wouldn't cooperate. But does Trump know that?

As I say, I doubt is is capable of setting up these riots for that purpose. But....

lj,

Our old friend McKinney, much to his credit, was already humming a couple of bars of Kumbaya before the MAGAts assaulted the Capitol.

--TP

It won't last, lj. I've seen this effect before (with Tiananmen Square), people have strong reactions against in the immediate aftermath, but as time goes by it recedes and people backslide. I hope I'm wrong, it's certainly a far from perfect analogy.

Welcome to sweeps week, people.

Josh Marshall at TPM asks a good question:
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/is-the-president-still-president

--TP

he's been leading up to this since before he took office

Exactly right. You just needed clear eyes to see it, and many of us had them.

Welcome to sweeps week, people.

If things settle down to some kind of normal, expect layoffs at media companies of those people Trump kept employed for over four years...

https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2021/01/trump-again-praises-insurrectionists

It's too late. All that is left is the killing.

Not wish-fullfillment; the fact of the matter.

I'd be happy to raise subhuman Hawley's children as RINO's and let them go, to fend.

But he'd kill them, the Christian little f*ck.

I feel the need to bring this post back from the archives

https://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2020/04/looking-for-death.html

And no points for guessing who wrote this

Nope, I'm comparing much larger, but lefty'ish, groups that actually did or do something with groups that are ineffectual, and in the former case, not equating either with impending communist revolution while laughing my ass off at the ridiculous notion that the clowns in MI and elsewhere are even in the same universe as Franco, or that our situation is even remotely similar to Spain in 1936.

OKC was pretty much a one-off. Timothy McVeigh is not 100% unique, but he is in a very, very small league. The only one who comes close--that I can recall off-hand--is Anders Breivik, the Norwegian mass murderer. Those kinds of atrocities--the result of psychopathy, fairly high IQ, intense focus and long term planning--are not in the skill set we see on display in this pissant rallies.

If you equate the RW pissants with the Antifa + the OWS crowd and just consider them to be the "muscle" behind the Right and Left Wing extremes, I'm not sure who has who outnumbered. I'm reasonably confident that if you added both sides together, you still have a very, very small minority.

As for "exploding heads", look at the overwrought title of this thread. Jesus.

Had I known that every comment by McT should have been caveated with a 'I'm not following any of this stuff, I only know what filters into my hermetically sealed room', I might have taken it a little less seriously.

Dreher gets what he deserves from the commentariat he nurtured, fed, with the nutrients of Christian orthodox hate:

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/trump-weimar-america-maga-mob-capitol/

As he wrote in .... whatever.

Oh, for suck's sake:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pence-senate-leaders-condemn-trumps-mob-resume-process-to-formally-certify-biden

Too late to spit.


Lj,
Speaking for myself,mctx is on the right side of the most pressing issue.
If we were talking policy and not armed insurrection....

Those.... should probe a “?”

I hate doing this on my phone.

Ffs

Probably be a

Yes, he's on the right side, and good on him. I'm just hoping that he might reevaluate his previous blithe dismissals of folks here.

btw

https://www.kusi.com/kusi-news-confirms-identity-of-woman-shot-and-killed-inside-us-capitol/

The woman is Ashli Babbit, a 14-year veteran, who served four tours with the US Air Force, and was a high level security official throughout her time in service.
(emphasis mine)

I have to read more, but my first impression is that thes people— the Capitol mob— were a bunch of clowns. They are criminals too and Trump should be impeached and maybe charged with whatever is appropriate. But they were as juvenile as Trump.

That was the point of the clip I linked above, though I think the video was deleted. It showed this idiot , a woman who identified herself as Elizabeth from Knoxville, seemingly shocked that she had been maced. Asked why she tried to enter the Capitol, she said they were trying to start a Revolution.

This kind of thing, a mob attack on the Capitol, is serious, but it is also ridiculous. Trump has the kind of buffoonish supporters one might expect. Would serious revolutionaries of any sort pick this freakish clown as their great leader?

I think we all agree that they are clowns. (we do, right?) The problem is we have a surfeit of clowns. How does the country deal with it?

Maybe by pointing out that everyone who voted for that Orange turd, regardless of their motivations, has to take some responsibility? You see the same with Brexit and the conservatives. Anyone who voted for that party needs to have a sign hung around their neck saying 'ignore anything I say'. Of course, positing that as an option, I'll get accused of being a member of the cancel culture...

So, they were trying to start a Revolution. But apparently didn't expect more than token opposition. Because otherwise, the only surprise would be that she got maced rather than, you know, shot.

No wonder so many of us see these people as clueless morons who are totally out of touch with reality.

I fear for the safety of my new presumptive senators-elect; the ceaseless tv ads that were run against them called them the “enemy”, only be voting for the Republicans could we “Save America”. Easy to imagine a few people taking that to heart.

“BY voting” dammit

speaking of voting...there may be some serious vote whipping going on amongst the cabinetry.

I think we all agree that they are clowns. (we do, right?) The problem is we have a surfeit of clowns. How does the country deal with it?

We elect good Democrats, and we do good and bold things, and we then stand up, unashamed, to proudly defend what we've done....and keep pushing left, ever left to bend the curve toward justice.

And by the way, McKinney...property is theft. BOO!

there may be some serious vote whipping going on amongst the cabinetry.

Wonder if those "acting" Secretaries count....

Seriously, the 25th Amendment just says "the principal officers of the executive departments," so presumably they do. (Although given some of the court decisions concerning Chad Wolf of Homeland Security, he may be an exception.)

Of course, Trump would immediately file suit, since that's what he does.

Huh. Looks like redstate is down.

Interesting.

Back up now, and full on batxit insane as usual.

Nazis were not clowns.

Bolsheviks were not clowns.

al qaeda were not clowns.

The Confederacy did not wear floppy shoes and squirt their slaves and America in the eye via their lapel flowers and then pile into the clown car and go home.

We had to kill them.

We indulge these anti-American conservative movement vermin, Trump and all the way down, by referring to them as clowns.

Daddy, can we go to the circus again next year? Because the circus will back in town unless it is burned to the ground.

Once again we miss the fucking point. AGAIN!

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2021/01/tucker-its-not-your-fault-its-their-fault/

They must be destroyed.

They must find no quarter in America.

Nowhere, except the grave.

I will now take another fucking hiatus.

The polls are in.

45% of republicans approve of trump's putsch.

Just as 45% of Poles approved of the Holocaust, which is why conservative movement vermin once again rule Poland.

It never ends.

https://wvmetronews.com/2021/01/06/w-va-delegate-just-sworn-in-among-the-rioters-storming-u-s-capitol/

La commedia è finita!

Autocrats and repressive regimes around the world are already using this disaster to justify their rule and suppression of dissent - great.

On the up side, hopefully this will make the US a bit more reluctant to "bring democracy" to countries around the world - at least in the near future.

PS can some of the mods have chat with nooneithinkisinmytree? I'm willing to debate many things, but calling for summary execution of whole families and a few million political opponents is a bit beyond the pale, no?

(I know that's his "style" and not meant literally etc, but still).

novakant, no one wants to have that chat because it's a pain to type the name out...

So, they were trying to start a Revolution. But apparently didn't expect more than token opposition. Because otherwise, the only surprise would be that she got maced rather than, you know, shot.

they probably expected to be greeted as liberators because their cause is so righteous and self-evidently correct.

bubble babies.

As if I didn't already love her enough, Stacey Abrams tweeted this yesterday:

While today’s terrible display of terror and meanness shakes us, let’s remember:
@ossoff, Jewish son of an immigrant & @ReverendWarnock, first Black Senator from Georgia, will join a Catholic POTUS & the first woman, Black + Indian VP in our nation’s capital. God bless America.

At least the insurrectionists aren't devil-worshiping pedophiles.

It has to be asked. That newly elected Representative who was making such a show as she paraded around the Capitol with her gun on her hip. Where was she when it hit the fan? (I suppose she might have been with the mob, like the guy lj mentions above at 4:01. But I'm guessing she's just another reality TV type who gets off on flaunting her gun, but doesn't have the guts to use it.)

At least the insurrectionists aren't devil-worshiping pedophiles.

Because being a Trump-worshiper is soooo much better....

That newly elected Representative who was making such a show as she paraded around the Capitol with her gun on her hip. Where was she when it hit the fan?

She was on the House floor as one of the members speaking in support of the disallowing Arizona's votes.

FB just banned Trump "indefinitely".

five years too late. but...

I'm still trying to get my head around the fact that, apparently, it was VP Pence and NOT Pres. Trump who directed the National Guard be mobilized. The only legal basis I can see for that is if the 25th Amendment had already been invoked. Not that I'm sorry that somebody stepped up. But have we reached the point where, de facto, Trump is being ignored by the rest of the government?

wj, re: your 11:35,

I thought the same thing. Maybe someone should say something?

But have we reached the point where, de facto, Trump is being ignored by the rest of the government?

i've read that's exactly what's happening.

rather than go full 25th, the cabinet is just 'working around him' while he sulks in the corner.

sapient, This
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/pence-national-guard/index.html
seems to say that the (acting) Defense Secretary and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs said they spoke with Pence, with the Congressional leaders, but . . . not that they spoke with Trump.

rather than go full 25th, the cabinet is just 'working around him' while he sulks in the corner.

I'm seeing the same thing. It makes sense. Not exactly constitutional but it will do for the next couple of weeks. Particularly if there aren't enough votes for a 25th A solution, which might prove counter productive in the long run anyway.

i've read that's exactly what's happening.

rather than go full 25th, the cabinet is just 'working around him' while he sulks in the corner.

I'd really, really, rather we not have yet more ignoring of the legal processes that are already in place to deal with the situation. High time we get back to the norm of following the law.

McK, what's counterproductive about going full 25th? It seems to me the workaround just fuels the "deep state" nonsense.

High time we get back to the norm of following the law.

Not to mention the fact that the country deserves to know who's in charge.

McK, what's counterproductive about going full 25th? It seems to me the workaround just fuels the "deep state" nonsense.

A couple of things. Of course, it's all a trade-off and whatever is going to throw off unintended consequences. That said, keep two things in mind: (1) "if you're going to shoot the king, you better not miss" and (2) DT's fans aren't rational. A failed 25th A attempt would feed the Deep State meme, maybe more than even a successful one, but either way, you'd be confirming their world view and making DT a cause celebre' into perpetuity. Or, at least that is one outcome. Plus, who knows what crazy shit DT would do if a minority of his cabinet shot and missed?

As of today, he's lost his social media presence and is becoming increasingly marginalized. He is likely a legitimate candidate for a 25th A removal given his mental state, but again, does that do anything to make the crazies less crazy? Removal might make the rest of us feel better, but we aren't the ones tearing shit up. We can be patient.

Opposing a 25th A removal isn't the hill I'd die on. I'm just saying the downside risk, give the de facto implementation we already seem to have, is the devil we know and it's one we can live with.

The GOP is using what it can to disguise, paper over, and otherwise blur its complicity in the damage it's done to the US.

"Invoking the 25th" (a turn of phrase which infuriates me, BTW: Does one "invoke" surgery to remove a cancer?) is just another way of not-really-doing-anything. Invoke today, Invoke tomorrow; take real action? Never.

The MSM is of course going along with all this. My alarm clock plays NPR, and within the first minute of waking up was announcing a story about yesterday's failed coup and the person they were interviewing was.... wait for it... a GOP strategist.

(I get a kick out of how much conservatives hate NPR. I guess they haven't listened to it in years, because it's been extra special kind to the GOP ever since Bush II.)

the person they were interviewing was.... wait for it... a GOP strategist.

hah! it's always a GOP strategist!

i haven't listened to NPR since March 12th (last day i drove to work), but i don't miss it. and the biggest part of why i don't miss it is the way they always have a GOP strategist on hand to tell us what things mean. the NPR host just makes non-committal grunts and hmms while the GOP strategist spreads intellectual manure across the country.

intellectual manure

wow. way to use the wrong metaphor, cleek.

maybe intellectual RoundUp would be better.

There have to be clear, visible consequences for a president who incites an assault on the Capitol. Shrugging it off because there are only two weeks left in his term is not acceptable. He must be removed.

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