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November 07, 2018

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Michael,

I'm sure what you say is true, but there is another issue that comes not from business rather than government experience.

IT guys always want to replace the system. Sometimes they are right, and sometimes they are wrong, but they never come in and explain how the current system is fine, or just needs some upgrades. So it's easy to be skeptical.

And, not only do new systems tend to be buggy, as you note, there are also risks of being over budget and late. That, I suspect, is easier to deal with in the private sector than the public.

Pro Bono:

Engraved into the southeast Portico of the Jefferson Monument:

"I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as a civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors."

-Excerpted from a letter to Samuel Kercheval, July 12, 1816.

"barbarous ancestors" seems a fresh, but original(ist) slant on the Founders, but I tend to think our barbarians are rather today's originalists.

And, not only do new systems tend to be buggy, as you note, there are also risks of being over budget and late. That, I suspect, is easier to deal with in the private sector than the public.

Yeah. Long ago I worked for a giant telecom company in Colorado that poured $150M (1990 dollars) into a new billing system project. Total failure -- not one line of code ever got used for actual billing. Completely hushed up as well, not a single word in the papers or TV news. A decade later when the state bought a new system to handle public assistance client intake and benefit determination, every missed deadline or cost overrun or bug made the front page.

Saw this on someone's twitter thread. It's how republicans are reacting to counting all of the votes with every conspiracy theory lie they can think up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InbaU387Wl8

This conversation reminds me of an article I bookmarked years ago.

1) I'm amazed it's not a dead link.

2) I would have guessed it was at most ten years ago, not eighteen and a half. Time flies.

I've just spent to past eight(?!?) years of my working life helping my company "Get Out of DOS." (AKA "GOOD.") As appalling as that sounds, I don't think that even now the powers that be would have given it as high a priority as they did if it hadn't been affecting our ability to meet the data security requirements of our clients.

It's a wonder the world functions at all, not just with systems that rely on computers but also in relation to the workings of -- e.g. and with a nod to Pro Bono -- our health care/insurance system. It couldn't have been designed with more or stupider inefficiencies if they'd tried.

If you just look at straight out-of-pocket insurance premiums, then yeah, possibly.

I think that, for people who raise this as an issue, straight out-of-pocket premiums is what they are unhappy about.

I lack both the chops and the inclination to find, understand, and share an in-depth study that either proves or disproves that they have a solid basis for their complaint.

The internet tells me things, sometimes I pass them along. Apply whatever grains of salt you feel is required.

Apropos of Janie's link, allow me to say that IMO the world would be a better place if all software engineers, and their managers, read Joel On Software as a daily practice.

I might even go so far as to say, read Joel On Software instead of getting a CS degree, because anything you learn from Joel is something you'll probably actually use about 100 times more than stuff you learn in class.

But I'll refrain from going quite that far.

The world needs fewer geniuses, and more sensible people.

Have we noticed that immediately following the Pittsburgh murders and the pipe bomb mailings that the demands of the two conservative terrorists were immediately placed into law by p's executive orders?

And we're told violence does not effect change.

None of this is coincidence.

While liberals were peacefully voting, conservatives were sending the message to their base that murder is just another ballot.

I've just spent to past eight(?!?) years of my working life helping my company "Get Out of DOS."

yuck.

every available developer in my building has been torn off new work and is frantically working to convert years of web apps written to use Adobe Flash to do it all in HTML5. because Flash turned out to be a security nightmare.

i just came across this article today:
How it feels to learn JavaScript in 2016. it's not even a little exaggeration to say that i have conversations like this twice a week. i just want to make this f'ing thing work, so i ask a question; that opens the door to a labyrinth of frameworks and plugins and trendy programming techniques that some other team has built their little world upon. and i can either learn everything they know or roll my own. and if i roll my own, i'm at risk of running afoul of some company-wide standard that isn't published anywhere but will turn out to be the most important thing in all of MyEmployerCo's web development methodology.

I'm kinda-sorta looking for a new job, so I'm bumping up against all the latest and greatest trends.

SOLID, 12-Factor App, Dependency Injection, blahblahblah.

Go to the whiteboard and code me up a quicksort, junior. Go balance an AVL tree, young fella.

Smart-ass kids.

If it's not too 2004 to use the phrase "money quote," here's the money quote from cleek's link:

I have no idea what you just said

I'm glad I'm not the only one. ;-)

This was good too:

Yeah, but apparently in the web we love making things complicated and then going back to the basics. We do that every year or so, just wait for it, we are going to do assembly in the web in a year or two.

2016 is so....2016.

We do that every year or so, just wait for it, we are going to do assembly in the web in a year or two.

asm.js

This is fun, for certain people and certain values of fun.

immediately following the Pittsburgh murders and the pipe bomb mailings that the demands of the two conservative terrorists were immediately placed into law by p's executive orders?

He calls them "focus groups".

asm.js

Not to pick nits unduly, but that kinda looks like... C.

If there are no opcodes or registers, is it really assembler? Or is it maybe just some JS folks trying to seem [email protected]?

Not that there's anything wrong with C or C-ish.

Yes, it is, in fact, about health insurance security - for everyone. And that's a puzzle that has been solved, and solved, and solved, and solved, and solved. We can take our pick of tried and true solutions, according to whatever mix of public and private actors we want to include in the mix.

So let's just freaking do it. Get'er done.

Agreed.
And healthcare is, I think, the single most salient issue for a majority of US voters ?

And healthcare is, I think, the single most salient issue for a majority of US voters ?

if "majority of US voters" meant "majority of US elected representatives", we'd be getting somewhere.

Ah. Since you said "Web", I assumed that portability across the standard version of all major browsers running on at least x86 and ARM hardware was a requirement. A JavaScript engine (JSE) is pretty much the lowest-level general computing thing that meets that. Yes, the JSE directly "executes" code that looks C-ish. asm.js provides a set of functions, each of which invokes one of the operations supported by a standards-conforming JSE. You can write programs using those functions directly, which is about as much fun as writing in an unstructured assembly language. Or you can compile from some higher-level language.

The video I linked shows an actual working implementation where someone wrote a back-end for gcc that emitted asm.js code, then compiled the CPython interpreter with it. The resulting (large) pile of JavaScript ran correctly, within the limits of the JSE (no local file system access, no general networking, etc).

the world would be a better place if all software engineers, and their managers, read Joel On Software as a daily practice.

The world would be a better place if colleges taught "check for every returned error condition, and if one occurs, the error message must give all information available to the program about the situation" so that instead of instead of

"Error abort"

one saw

mudge: startup: init_user_settings: ERROR: get_init_values_from_json_file( "/home/jrandomuser/.mudge.json" ) failed: no such file or directory.

I've recently started using Microsoft Visual Studio 2017. When I close it down, it gives me the following error message, every time:

"Something bad happened"

Which makes me laugh, out loud, every time it happened. So, to some prankster wise-ass at MS, I say, thank you.

What colleges seem to be teaching the kids these days is a bewildering pile of patterns and best practices and architectural models and what-all.

What I would love to meet, and who I would hire on the spot were I a hiring manager, would be some young graduate who approached problems by asking:

"What is you are trying to do?"
"Why is it good to do that?"

And then go from there.

the error message must give all information available to the program about the situation"

if only.

the single integer error code which maps to a localized message string - a string which may or may not take parameters (but of course the parameters are never passed back! so don't try using that string!) - rules my world.

The world would be a better place if colleges taught "check for every returned error condition, and if one occurs, the error message must give all information available to the program about the situation" so that instead of instead of

"Error abort"

Radical, new-fangled idea. It'll never catch on.

I'm working with a system now that signals successful Web service calls by returning the text "Okay" in the return message body. Some services return the full string, some the abbreviation "OK".

The way you tell which one to expect is by finding the source and running it down in there.

See also, kinda-sorta looking for a new job.

It seems like the least asked question, inside or outside IT, is "What are we actually trying to accomplish here?"

It might well be necessary, for technical financial or political reasons, to compromise from the obvious answer to that. But at least it avoids starting from an imperfect answer with a whole bunch of (often erroneous) assumptions baked in.

Also, if answered honestly, it gives insight into what people really care about. Instead of just seeing what is the cultural marker de jour.

Re error messages... When the Mac first came out and people were singing its praises, I used to ask, "Why is a caricature of a bomb any better than a Blue Screen of Death?" Especially given that both of them were inferior to Unix's "Bus error, core dumped" but the machine kept running.

I lost bets because I thought both Apple and MS would be forced to make the (painful) jump to virtual memory and ring protection sooner than they did.

It seems like the least asked question, inside or outside IT, is "What are we actually trying to accomplish here?"

Amen.

I would scrap half the school curriculum to teach the kind of mindfulness that would help "us" know how to ask and answer this question, along with the self-awareness and communication skills needed along the way.

Not gonna happen, of course. It's not really how we're wired, and it wouldn't serve the powers that be or wish to be.......

%SYSTEM-F-TMNYFNGRS, Too many fingers on keyboard.

Ah, those were the days.

The first computer I did any programming on was an IBM System/360 Model 20 at a junior college. The RPG compiler was punched into about 2,300 cards. I once replaced some of the compiler error messages with snarky ones to mess with new students.

Did ya know Hillary Clinton was p's ghostwriter as recently as 2013:

https://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2018/11/blast-from-past-trumps-globalist-agenda.html

Civil War #2 needs to have some serious exponential increase in fatalities than the first lame one.

Caption to the accompanying photo:

"Either that's the ball I drove off the tee that one of you Scotsmen in skirts should kick for me to a better lie/lie, or grab that pussy, boys!"

Fuck all republicans and conservatives.

Get the fuck outta my country.

"Europe is a tapestry ... oink, oink"

Yeah, p wrote that

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/video-of-acosta-incident-posted-by-white-house-press-secretary-contains-extra-frames-2018-11-08?siteid=bigcharts&dist=bigcharts

This also caught my eye:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/evacuated-after-health-attacks-cuba-china-diplomats-face-new-ordeals-n920241

In particular, this development:

"Equally unsettling to the diplomatic evacuees: suspected incidents of harassment and break-ins they say have occurred since returning to the States. Four U.S. officials tell NBC that the FBI has investigated"

Odd, ain't it, that American diplomats to Cuba and China, doing their jobs, some having to do with trade with the enemies of the current, diabolical, evil, vermin, anti-American, republican, conservative, Bolton-esque, Putin-loving, gummint-hating filth now in power in our formerly American White House and Congress, have undergone this ordeal.

Who the FUCK are these people?

And WHY do we allow them to run this country?

Who is Sam Clovis?

How does a fucking, stinking, subhuman, right wing talk show cocksucker from Iowa, and so many of his Russia-compromised filth get themselves installed in p's foreign policy inner circle early on in the campaign and after the election?

Sam Clovis:

https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/02/politics/sam-clovis-department-of-agriculture/index.html

Department of Agriculture Chief Scientist.

Science?

Or promoting Russian agricultural policies?

I regularly observe people with solutions they prefer (for whatever reasons) seeking problems to which they can apply those solutions. What that means is that they tend not to prioritize problems very well, imagine problems that don’t actually exist, and at best only manage to partially solve actual problems that may or may not be worth solving in the first place.

This usually comes with a preference for hypothetical theorizing about what could happen in endeavors that have been undertaken for decades without considering the mountains of empirical information that have accumulated over time. The question “Does that ever happen?” is met with a restatement of the hypothetical .

'The world would be a better place if colleges taught "check for every returned error condition, and if one occurs, the error message must give all information available to the program about the situation" so that instead of instead of

"Error abort"'

Windows for toilets. Should be fun:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/the-future-of-toilets-according-to-bill-gates/vi-BBPwd5l

You have made a fatal sanitation error!

Shut down your toilet before further damage is done. Please hobble to your desk with your pants down around you ankles and locate your PIN and security code.

If Steve Jobs designed toilets, they would be sleek and stylish with beveled edges, but every time you barely touched them the wrong way, you'd get very wet.

The other day I got $20 dollar bills out of the ATM, went to the car wash and had to re-insert THEM into another wall-mounted machine to get the quarters, but that machine was out of change.

The security camera tapes show me using harsh language against an inanimate object. Like Basil Fawlty thrashing his stalled automobile with a tree branch he tore off a nearby tree.

So convenient.

The ruination proceeds apace. On point:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/veterans-haven-t-receive-gi-bill-benefits-months-due-ongoing-n934696

How does a . . . right wing talk show [host] from Iowa, and so many of his Russia-compromised filth get themselves installed in p's foreign policy inner circle early on in the campaign and after the election?

Obvious answer: normal foreign policy experts didn't want to have anything to do with him. And his daft ideas about the world. Most still don't.

Windows for toilets. Should be fun

I just so totally misinterpreted this initially. Sat here puzzling over where the window would go. Duh!

Kudlow mouthpiece and shill Jim Cramer, whose mouth the world could use a lengthy respite from, sez this:

https://finance.yahoo.com/m/1bf0e618-0e5a-3264-8608-f24968d25999/cnbc%E2%80%99s-jim-cramer-says-stock.html

..... about one hour after sezzing to start buying, a statement that I guess got taken down, for the time being, and will be put back up if the market bounces.

That way, he can claim credit for whatever happens.

Two sides of every mouth and then his ass will chime in.

Also expect him to shill for p's and kudlow's total destruction of the Federal Reserve as yet another institution goes down in republican arsonist flames, like the Supreme Court and everything fucking thing they touch.

There will be blood.

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/11/trump-decides-to-skip-arlington-ceremony-too/

There will be blood.

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/11/will-trump-leave-white-house-voluntarily

There will be blood.

Sieg Heil!

https://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2018/11/trump-is-making-naziism-great-again.html

The man who wrote the special counsel regulations is not happy at all with Whitaker’s appointment...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2018/11/12/rules-are-clear-whitaker-cant-supervise-muellers-investigation/
...Our founders recognized that “men were not angels” and that checks and balances in government were critical to avoid threats to the rule of law. The Whitaker installation does violence to our most basic principles — enshrined in the Constitution, laws enacted by Congress, the ethics rules that govern our prosecutors and the special counsel regulations themselves.

It is lawless and unprincipled.

It must be stopped.

This probably belongs on the Tuesday thread, but Sinema is in as AZ Senator.

FL is in recount, MS is going to a run-off.

So maybe not such a big (R) majority when all is said and done.

MS is going to a run-off.

And the gal who is the Republican in that runoff had the execrable taste to say (of one of her supporters) "If he invited me to a hanging, I'd be in the front row." It the state that led the nation in lynchings during the Jim Crow era. With a black man as her opponent.

I will still be surprised if she loses. But after that gaffe, I won't be amazed. Talk about motivating your opponents.

The votes were already in before the gaffe, weren't they?

Gaffe? By the "gal"?

an unintentional act or remark causing embarrassment to its originator; a blunder.
"an unforgivable social gaffe"
synonyms: blunder, mistake, error, slip, faux pas, indiscretion, impropriety, miscalculation, gaucherie, solecism;

No, it's what the KKK and slave owners said before lynching black human beings.

Annie Oakley was a gal. This woman is a racist, cracker c*nt.

If her opponent was Jewish, she would have mentioned attending a Jew-burning to toast her marshmallows.

The woman should have Antifa, restaurant patrons, cake decorators, and the hounds of bloody Hell in her face everywhere she goes for the rest of her life.

This shit will stop in America or there will be savage blood.

We're not doing this anymore. MLK said the good words, but this will be stopped forever, everywhere by means he would not approve of.

Fuck you, republicans and conservatives.

Fuck you.

ah, yes, runoff.

What happens after a forest fire.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/jerome-corsi-says-he-expects-to-be-indicted-by-mueller-investigation-2018-11-12?siteid=bigcharts&dist=bigcharts

“I fully anticipate in the next few days I will be indicted by Mueller for some form or other of giving false information to the special counsel,” Corsi said.

If Corsi goes down, I will wear a tiny purple heart in honor of the occasion.

I was in Phoenix just before the election, and I was sure that Sinema would not win. The vile ads against her in a republican state seemed likely to do the job.

The anti-McSally ads were not equally awful, mostly just poking at her votes to end Obama-Care.

My theory is that there are a lot more cord cutters than we credit. Lots of people probably still have cable but are effectively cutters, since ad-free Netflix and on demand streaming beats anything that carries ads.

Or maybe Republican men just wont show up to vote for a woman.

https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/this-is-all-donald-trump-has-left-1830329753

p.

then we have ence to deal with, a murderous monster, a licker of the p fundament unto himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-nq2kEEL5o

The resistance to the entire conservative movement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNWr7d1dNSA

Kirstjen Nielsen on her way out?

Adios amiga.

Support among the troops is slipping.

It's hard to run a banana republic without the military.

Maybe it's time to take a little road trip to Baraboo, WI and have a chat with some of the youth.

Maybe with their parents, too.

RE: Baraboo - High school in WI was a constant stream of hazing and edgelord behavior even 30 years ago. I also remember the bigotry baked into the culture, which is mostly the weird sort that you get when the local demographics are 98% white and Christian (figuring that the local tribe members not living on reservations are passing). I heard generations worth of Black, Mexican, and Jew jokes told (mostly) openly and homophobic slurs were the insult of choice. The latter may have changed some, but FB shows me that the rest is still in place, helped along by resentment of That PC Bullshit (tm).

If any of them ever make it out of Baraboo and into a more diverse community, it's likely that their bullshit behavior will wither away. But the local attitudes will persist like noxious weeds and vote in the same spirit. And any minorities that live in the area will be hazed until they accept the bullshit and go along to get along.

But none of them are racist. Just ask them. It's all just for shits and grins and there isn't anything personal in it. They are just flipping the bird to all the normies.

When a right-wing movement falls in the forest ........

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/12/1812339/-Something-is-going-on-Fox-Wikileaks-have-both-stopped-tweeting-Drudge-deleted-everything?utm_campaign=trending

In some countries, martial law and reigns of terror follow eerie silences.

I'm trying, without success, to recall a previous First Lady doing something even remotely like this.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/first-lady-melania-trumps-office-calls-for-firing-of-white-house-national-security-official/2018/11/13/1b4c3f28-e77d-11e8-bbdb-72fdbf9d4fed_story.html

On the other hand, anything which gets one of Bolton's handpicked people gone has to be good for the country.

Michelle Obama forced a multiracial group of unarmed children to slave away in her vegetable garden and eat their peas, mustard greens, and kohlrabi before dessert.

How soon we forget.

Meanwhile, "Today, we gathered for Diwali, a holiday observed by Buddhists, Sikhs, and Jains throughout the United States & around the world."

Did no one tell the ignoramus that Diwali is a Hindu festival?

Did no one tell the ignoramus that Diwali is a Hindu festival?

At a guess, several people, several times. Although I suppose those who normally would may have just given up by now.

Blackface, redux:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/14/black-pete-scandal-dutch-silent-sinterklaas

Elections are no match for evil:

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/house-gop-leadership-moves-to-torpedo-h-con-res-138/

I'm not sure if I came up with the same idea on my own while walking my dog (seriously), or if someone here mentioned it in the past, and I simply recalled it without realizing its provenance. Either way, link and excerpt:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2018/11/12/the-problem-with-our-democracy-isnt-gerrymandering-its-integers/#2cd52f1f899c

The solution: elect TWO representatives from each Congressional district, and award them each a fractional vote in Congress. Each of the top two vote-getters would have a Congressional vote that is proportional to the number of voters who supported them. Thus if a district elects a Democrat (D) with 55% of the vote, and the losing Republican (R) gets 45%, both of them go to Congress, and D gets 0.55 votes while R gets 0.45 votes.

All my best ideas (not a high bar, mind you) come to me while walking my dog, taking a shower, or driving.

Hmmm... Did I just suggest that my ideas walk my dog, shower, and drive?

No, but your dog has all of HIS best ideas as well when you are walking him, and the first one is "walkerless dogs.... hmmm", followed by "when do I get to drive, woof?"

How did you know my dog was male?

I need to extend my pronoun neutrality to other species as well.

"The best people". If, by best people, you mean people who don't pay their contractors.

Somehow the phrase which leaps to mind is "The apple does not fall far from the tree."

How bad is it when even John Yoo says that a Republican President's action is unconstitutional?
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/11/whitaker-cant-take-officeand-that-helps-mueller/575770/

i really love the fractional representation idea.

plus, every time a House member gets quoted, they'll have to include his/her voting weight along with party affiliation.

"I really love this new fractional representation idea," said representative Cleek O'Monkeyshines (D - NC - 0.518)

"The problem with our democracy isn't gerrymandering, it's integers"

Not to worry, the GOP is working hard to base our "democracy" on imaginary numbers.

Not to worry, the GOP is working hard to base our "democracy" on imaginary numbers.

And the Democratic Party is working hard for irrational numbers. :)

I need to extend my pronoun neutrality to other species as well.


I can't even guess how many people tell me that. It's a common problem these days. Everyone's talking about it.


And the Democratic Party is working hard for irrational numbers. :)

This is getting too complex for me.

"This is getting too complex for me."

I hear that Transcendental meditation can give calm, in that case.

I hear that Transcendental meditation can give calm, in that case.

Do you have the numbers for that?

I think nimbers would be a more impartial choice.

Especially when discussing American politics today, this is telling:
"Nimbers have the characteristic that . . . they are their own negatives"

"Do you have the numbers for that?"

Roughly $2500.

https://www.alternet.org/economy/transcendental-meditation-how-i-paid-2500-password-inner-peace

Sexy Sadie, what have you done?

Still a better deal than a fake Christian mega-church, but more expensive than a generic anxiety drug.

A walk thru the woods is free.

A walk thru the woods is free.

As is a walk on the beach. We all should do more of that kind of thing.

The beach too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSk5U4oHhu0

We all should do more of that kind of thing.

Now you tell me.

Free elections in Rwanda, Cuba, Russia and pigfucker America:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/it-will-take-many-many-more-blue-waves-to-undo-the-gops-2010-power-grab

It's WWF, but for the big swinging republican pudenda.

Is Kavanaugh on the Board too?

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/11/acting-attorney-general-lent-name-company-hawking-time-travel-cryptocurrency-toilet-well-endowed

Well... the standard of discourse, and government, is not much better in the UK:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/theresa-mays-government-in-death-spiral-over-brexit-deal-after-key-resignations

Just to be clear, exceptional America has many more holes in which to be f*cked by the conservative/p movement than England does.

We will neither be out-holed nor our holes out-f*cked.

America under conservative/p misan-every-hole-thropy has surged ahead and closed the hole gap with Mexico, Canada, and China and we shall do the same with so-called Europe and England.

We will excise tariffs on your holes, but we fully expect you to accept our far superior and f*cked holes without limit.

Only conservative Russia will be co-equal with America in their arsenal of holes, as we seek the mutually assured f8ckability of our superior conservative/p holes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Rn_tUs5oU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK0R272RjXI

Just back from a week in Malta, a republic where about 96% of voting age people actually go to vote and hospitals offer free rides to the polling places (and back) for patients.
In-person-voting only.
On the other hand they have the strictest anti-abortion law with not even an exception for the life of the mother.

And investigative journalists get murdered.

Well (not!), that's rather common in a lot of places these days, and it's only a matter of time before this new fad reaches the US too. It's not as if there were no guys with big megaphones calling for it or at least openly admiring places where it already is commonplace.
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The British PM, demonstrating that Trump isn't the only one living in an alternate reality:

a good Brexit, a Brexit which is in the national interest is possible. We have persevered and have made a decisive breakthrough.
Or maybe she just thinks denial is all that will allow her to hold power (presumably for its own sake) a few months longer. Who cares that her party will pay the price after?

It does occur to me to wonder what the impact in the UK will be if, as seems entirely possible, Mueller's investigation finds in passing that the Russians intervened massively in the Brexit campaign as well.

Not one usually to predict things, I expect Mueller to release a report over the weekend providing little,not none, evidence of Trump collusion and a no finding of interfering with the investigation. He will be critical of the Comey firing but it wont rise to criminal level.

Tons of other named people, facts and conclusions will keep Congress busy until 2020.

Trump will not recognize it as the gift it is and will bluster forever about the underlying facts, then claim vindication in the same breath.

He will resign. Not predicting when.

He will resign. Not predicting when.

Marty, assuming you mean Trump and not Mueller? And if so, why do you think he will resign?

Defense Secretary Mattis was visiting the troops deployed along the border yesterday. He, perhaps incautiously, asked: “Let’s have at it, young soldiers, What’s on your mind?” One response:

“Sir, I have a question. The wire obstacles that we've implanted along the border... Are we going to be taking those out when we leave?"
In short, even (especially) the guys doing the work can see that it's of no practical use.

i don't think Trump is smart enough to have known how to collude nor is he disciplined enough to have been able to keep from bragging about it this long if he, personally, did. the rest of his team, though...

I did mean Trump. He will not survive the pressure from the House.

One big reason to doubt that Trump will resign (i.e leave office an instant sooner than he has to): while the DoJ holds that sitting Presidents may not be indicted, that immunity does not apply to ex-Presidents.

"A walk thru the woods is free.

As is a walk on the beach."

Showing your west-coast centrism, wj.

In Joisey, you have to buy a "beach tag". I think that's because the Mob owns the Atlantic.

Thanks Marty.

"A walk thru the woods is free.

As is a walk on the beach."

Showing your west-coast centrism, wj.

In Joisey, you have to buy a "beach tag".

And this is better that Eastern centrism how?

Because from the Mississippi nearly to the West Coast, the nearest woods are beyond the horizon.

Marty recently told me that he's psychic, so I'm not surprised at his venturing a prediction. But I am surprised at its specificity. "Over the weekend"??

Is there some Putin-Wikileaks-RWNJ meme floating around? I ask because I think Marty was kidding about being psychic.

--TP

#metooTony. I wonder where Marty heard Meuller will be issuing any kind of report this weekend?

I wonder where Marty heard Meuller will be issuing any kind of report this weekend?

I'm guessing that Marty just took note of the increasingly frantic efforts by Trump to trash Mueller. Since Whittaker took over and provided him a window into what Mueller was doing in detail. It's hardly a reach to figure that a final report, and unveiling of previously sealed indictments, might be in the offing.

Personally, I would guess that Mueller has a couple more months of work in train. But I wouldn't be shocked to see a report sooner.

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