by liberal japonicus
[ed. the first two names which were left off and have been added]
With the Count's comment here, all of the people killed in the Las Vegas shooting have been listed. I have found no lists of all the wounded, just stories like this
Caster, 41, plans to leave Sunrise Hospital and Medical Center in the coming days after being shot through his left side at the Route 91 Harvest Festival on the Las Vegas Strip. The bullet blew through his lung, near his heart, and either it or bone fragment ended up in his spine. He has lost all feeling and function from the waist down.
and this
Doctors told Kurt Fowler, 41, that it could take a year for him to walk again after losing 2 inches (51 millimeters) of bone from the bullet that shattered his lower right leg. The Lake Havasu, Arizona, man will likely have to return for treatment to Las Vegas – more than two hours from where he lives with his wife and three kids. His elderly mother hopes he’ll be able to get rides from his colleagues.
“All he wants is just to be able to walk, go back to work and take care of his family,” his mother said. “He wants to go home.” (both from here)
And I have to wonder if there will be others who die because of their wounds. One also wonders how many people were there, not wounded, but now can't imagine standing an open area to listen to a concert, or who will never feel comfortable at a concert. Below is a list of the names and the link that was attached in the comment, followed by a poem.
- Lisa Romero
- Denise Salmon Burditus
- Rhonda LeRocque
- Victor Link
- Charleston Hartfield
- Chris Hazencomb
- Calla Medig
- Thomas Day, Jr.
- Jack Beaton
- Keri Galvan
- Rocio Guillen
- Cameron Robinson
- Jennifer Irvine
- Candice Bowers
- Kelsey Breanne Meadows, 28
- Stacee Ann Etcheber, 50
- Carrie Rae Barnette, 34
- Kurt Allen Von Tillow, 55
- Michelle Vo, 32
- John Joseph Phippen, 56
- Heather Lorraine Alvarado, 35
- Stephen Richard Berger, 44
- Bailey Schweitzer, 20
- Andrea Lee Anna Castilla, 28
- Erick Silva, 21
- Laura Anne Shipp, 50
- Patricia Mestas, 67
- Denise Cohen, 58
- William W Wolfe, Jr., 42
- Dana Leann Gardner, 52
- Adrian Allan Murfitt, 35
- Melissa V Ramirez, 26
- Jordan McIldoon, 24
- Neysa C Tonks, 46
- Jessica Klymchuk, 34
- Teresa Nicol Kimura, 38
- Dorene Anderson, 49
- Brian S Fraser, 39
- Tara Ann Roe, 34
- Angela C Gomez, 20
- Susan Smith, 53
- Austin William Davis, 29
- Hannah Lassette Ahlers, 34
- Christiana Duarte, 22
- Brett Schwanbeck, 61
- Lisa Marie Patterson, 46
- Quinton Robbins, 20
- Sandra Casey, 34
- Christopher Louis Roybal, 28
- Carolyn Lee Parsons, 31
- James Melton, 29
- Rachael Kathleen Parker, 33
- Austin Cooper Meyer, 24
- Carly Anne Kreibaum, 34
- Jordyn N Rivera, 21
- Derrick Dean Taylor, 56
- Brennen Lee Stewart, 30
Grief by Stephen Dobyns
Trying to remember you
is like carrying water
in my hands a long distance
across sand. Somewhere people are waiting.
They have drunk nothing for days.
Your name was the food I lived on;
now my mouth is full of dirt and ash.
To say your name was to be surrounded
by feathers and silk; now, reaching out,
I touch glass and barbed wire.
Your name was the thread connecting my life;
now I am fragments on a tailor's floor.
I was dancing when I
learned of your death; may
my feet be severed from my body.
"Grief" by Stephen Dobyns, from Velocities. © Penguin, 1994.
One also wonders how many people were there, not wounded, but now can't imagine standing an open area to listen to a concert, or who will never feel comfortable at a concert.
While I do wonder that, I also wonder this. How many people are there, every week (day?) who are wounded? How many that are not, but can never feel comfortable standing in front of their home?
Yes, the lone (or small group) nuts with high-rate-of-fire weapons are a problem. But I suspect that the bigger problem, well except that it doesn't tend to impact folks we might know personally, is the horde of folks who use guns as a tool of their illegal activities.
Not, mind you, guys who just love to hunt, or even target practice. But those who are using them to kill or threaten to kill others. Whether they were intending to be all that seriously threatening before the trigger got pulled or not. And yes, that does definitely include the self-styled "malitias" and other paranoiacs.
Posted by: wj | November 20, 2017 at 11:36 AM
One also wonders how many people were there, not wounded, but now can't imagine standing an open area to listen to a concert, or who will never feel comfortable at a concert.
fear is what the 2nd Amendment guarantees.
Posted by: cleek | November 20, 2017 at 11:52 AM
I'm thinking we missed two of the Las Vegas dead. There were 57. I'll try and go through the list tomorrow morning and make amends.
But here's a thought: the wounded, many of whom will be so for the rest of their lives, are caught between the twin meat grinder fetishes of the conservative movement in so-called America in 2017 .... uncompromising allegiance to the Second Amendment, the gun lobby and gun manufacturers, and the never-ending fucking deadly desire to destroy Obamacare and Medicaid and institute murderous public policy wherein those who can't pay for healthcare can fucking do without.
As one prominent rumper said recently, the healthy do not want to pay for healthcare for the sick.
And lest anyone believe the news is not grim, understand that murderer rump and killer Cohn are now referring in public utterances to Medicare and Social Security as "welfare programs"..
Go fuck yourselves, republicans.
Posted by: Countme-a-Demon | November 20, 2017 at 05:50 PM
understand that murderer rump and killer Cohn are now referring in public utterances to Medicare and Social Security as "welfare programs"...
I'm not entirely clear how you see it as grim that they have reached the point of referring publicly to these programs the way that they have always seen them: as "welfare". Time was that they had a close enough relationship with reality to recognize that as utterly toxic politically. Apparently no longer.
Posted by: wj | November 20, 2017 at 06:04 PM
Besides, everybody knows that the only valid form of welfare is a full mommy-daddy "scholarship", followed by a job at the family firm. Worst case, you could be forced to exert yourself in pursuit of your (soon to become tax-free) inheritance.
Posted by: wj | November 20, 2017 at 06:09 PM
The lists often include the shooter, so that might be one. I had to work thru a couple of programs to make the links paste in, so I may have dropped one, I'll check tonite.
Posted by: liberal japonicus | November 20, 2017 at 06:23 PM
Language counts. Referring to these programs as welfare is not toxic any longer, and now the White House is driving the term into general usage, as the Republican Party has wanted to do for decades.
The Death tax. The Democrat Party.
When Russia refers to the Ukraine as one with Mother Russia, the State Department we once had, and don't any longer, noted that with trepidation.
Posted by: Countme-a-Demon | November 20, 2017 at 06:38 PM
REALLY worry about it when Trump renames the DOD to the "War Department".
Can't get more obviously premeditated than that, amirite?
Posted by: Snarki, child of Loki | November 20, 2017 at 07:40 PM
Referring to these programs as welfare is not toxic any longer
Certainly they appear to have reached that conclusion. However, will their voting base, never mind everybody else, buy it. I think that they would be utter fools to bet the ranch on it.
But then, on the evidence, a great number of them are utter fools, aren't they?
Posted by: wj | November 20, 2017 at 07:41 PM
REALLY worry about it when Trump renames the DOD to the "War Department".
Never happen! That would amount to Truth in Advertising. Which is just so not Trump's thing. (OK, maybe if he could admit to himself that he was bluffing. But he's not really capable of that either.)
Posted by: wj | November 20, 2017 at 07:45 PM
From Wikipedia, a reminder:
The War Department existed from August 7, 1789 until September 18, 1947, when it split into Department of the Army and Department of the Air Force and joined the Department of the Navy as part of the new joint National Military Establishment (NME), renamed the United States Department of Defense in 1949.
I'd just as soon it *was* called by its right name.
Posted by: JanieM | November 20, 2017 at 09:00 PM
Oh, no argument there! What I have a problem with is the virtually certain reason he would have for doing it if he, of all people, did it. Just one more place where he can not screw up . . . if nobody mentions the advertising opportunist to him.
Posted by: wj | November 20, 2017 at 09:05 PM
Speaking of advertising....I hear net neutrality gets terminated tomorrow. Stay tuned.
Posted by: bobbyp | November 20, 2017 at 09:45 PM
And here I was thinking that might be behind today's terrible performance. Sigh. Guess it was just Comcast being user-hostile.
Posted by: wj | November 20, 2017 at 10:42 PM
The Count pointed out that two names were left off, Lisa Romero and
Denise Salmon Burditus, who were the first and second names on the spreadsheet and I've just added them.
Posted by: liberal japonicus | November 21, 2017 at 07:21 AM
Read the post "do unto others" at Hullabaloo and hear subhuman republican filth Stephen Moore cheer on the delightful vengefulness seeded throughout the cocksucker tax bill.
In a Balkan context, Moore would be hung from a hook and his belly slit open for the neighborhood swine to make a meal of his entrails.
I am Tutsi. Moore and company are Hutu. The Vegas murderer was armed by Hutu.
My machetes will be in power one day again, pigfuckers.
Posted by: Countme-the-Enemy | November 22, 2017 at 09:41 AM