Guest Post by Benjamin Orbach
When I lived in Cairo in 2003, I was in on the ground floor of the protests in Liberation Square at the start of Iraq War. I took pictures, I wrote an oped, and there is a chapter in Live from Jordan about the event. The security forces roughed up some protestors that day, but the whole thing was a sham. Egyptians were upset about the war, but no one cared enough to stop working, to stop eating at McDonalds, or really to alter their lives in any meaningful way.
The opposite is true in Egypt, today. Tunisians showed Egyptians what was possible in 2011, and Egyptians, long the standard-bearer of the Arab World in so many ways, couldn’t bear to live with the shame of the Mubarak regime any longer. Hundreds of thousands of people, if not a couple million people, have taken their lives into their hands to challenge the repressive authority.
At this point in the standoff, it is clear that the regime has made its internal deals and that succession has passed over Mubarak’s son. The military – Egypt’s strongest institution – would have been shamed by the father passing the baton to his son. Egyptians are proud of their history and the turning of their faux-Republic into a Syrian-styled family business would not have been acceptable. This democratic moment preempted that discomfort for the military, and its mission is accomplished. While not securing his son’s throne must surely have been a bitter pill for Mubarak, his redline is undoubtedly a refusal to die in exile as a banished villain, to be sent away like a 21st Century version of King Farouk. The regime has dug in, and the brass has little stake in a continued confrontation.
At the same time, these Egyptian everyday heroes have lived a dream this past week. They’ve come together in the power of numbers, bound by common frustrations and propelled by common hopes. When the protests first began, they never could have hoped to gather this type of lasting attention and to win back such dignity. They’ve been kicked for years and they finally stood up and said no more. Their movement has morphed, though, from making a show of pride to changing the reality of their country and the way their government operates.
Egyptians are on the cusp of changing the very premise of what is possible. That’s intoxicating. It is light and fresh air in a teeming, dark basement. This isn’t regime change from the turret of an American tank; rather it could be a renaissance of Egyptians’ own creation.
But it is a fine line between dreams and nightmares. Together, Egyptian demonstrators are safe. Alone, they will suffer. If the plain-clothes thugs who are beating protestors at this very moment succeed in clearing Liberation Square without a formal political transition in place, then it will all end. There will be no promise of that better tomorrow. Instead, there will be the lurking fear of the knock on the door. Bloggers, Facebook posters, and photographed protestors – they’ll all be vulnerable without the strength of numbers.
Egypt has one of the most notorious prison systems in the Arab World. Many contend that the ideology of al Qaeda was spawned in Egypt’s prisons, where Islamist dissidents were tortured and radicalized further. That style of abuse is what falling short of the dream means.
Yesterday, I co-wrote an oped about this moment as an opportunity for Israelis, about how those who live in a democracy need to support those who are willing to die for democracy. This isn’t just about Israelis, though; it is about us as Americans. There is no question that Egypt is an integral strategic partner to the United States, and foreign policy is based upon interests, not sentimentality. As long as Egyptians were content to go about their everyday lives and not to seek change – as was the case in 2003 – then I didn’t have much of a problem with the practicalities of having to deal with a dictator. But people are dying in the streets to remove that dictator, and journalists are being beaten and arrested to clear the scene of witnesses.
Tomorrow, after Friday prayer, will be a big day. Without the protection of the White House, I don’t think the pro-democracy forces will tip the balance.
There are times when we have to ask what side of history do we want to be on? Supporting human rights and governing democratically are pillars of the identity we espouse as a country. You can argue that we risk strategic interests and stability as related to Iraq, the Suez Canal, and Israel by siding with democratic change in this case. I argue that we risk losing the very character of who we are, any claim to American exceptionalism, if we don’t support our friends who are risking their lives, en masse, for their rights.
To live in a democracy is a privilege and a responsibility. As citizens, we have a duty to support others who are actively struggling for that same privilege and responsibility. Contact the White House, post on Facebook, stop what you are doing for five minutes, and do something to support the citizens of Egypt.
Benjamin Orbach is the author of Live from Jordan and the Director of the America’s Unofficial Ambassadors initiative at Creative Learning.
The obvious question that arises is: what, specifically, could the United States government do which would have the impact that you want?
I don't see where any group except the Egyptian military can put down the armed and organized thugs that the regime has deployed the last two days. And if the Army command has decided that they are satisfied, now that Mubarak's son is out of the succession, what action by the United States would convince them to step in?
I'm not saying that there aren't effective steps the US could take. I just don't see very clearly what they might be.
Posted by: wj | February 03, 2011 at 04:33 PM
I was going to write wj's comment word for word, but since they've already done that...what wj just wrote.
Posted by: Turbulence | February 03, 2011 at 04:47 PM
@wj: The U.S. government has not made any serious threat to cut off the money. They must do so now, and credibly. Kerry following up Leahy's threat on aid would be a signal that our permanent govt is exerting real pressure on the Egyptians' permanent govt. (As his previous statement was a signal that the WH/State/DoD had already settled for the ridiculous "I won't run" line.)
Posted by: Nell | February 03, 2011 at 04:49 PM
wj: I would think our leverage w/the army is based on the roughly $1.5 billion in largely military aid that we provide on an annual basis.
The Egyptian army doesn't want that spigot to be cut off, or even tightened.
Posted by: Eric Martin | February 03, 2011 at 04:52 PM
If $1.3 bil/year isn't enough to have an effect on the Egyptian army, then mass demos aren't either, yes? And I wouldn't expect either wj or Turb to dismiss demos on same grounds.
In view of most in Arab world, blood and suffering of those arrested and assaulted in last week is already on Obama's hands and that of his admin. (My view too, but this isn't about me.)
Posted by: Nell | February 03, 2011 at 04:55 PM
During call this a.m. to White House, learned that calls are taken by volunteers. Woman asked me if it was true that journalists have been arrested and attacked; I confirmed with some specifics and let her know there was an ABC page collecting the incidents.
Very different tone from the usual bored intern or junior staff in Congressional calls.
Posted by: Nell | February 03, 2011 at 05:02 PM
Most concrete sign to me that somebody's putting pressure on somebody:
If it's true, that is. Accountability for the thuggery would be most welcome, but far more urgent is immediate release of human rights monitors, protest leaders, and journalists, and firm action and statements by army that peaceful protest tonight and tomorrow will be protected.
Posted by: Nell | February 03, 2011 at 05:08 PM
Sorry, immersed in events and didn't add context: for those not following the link, those are the powers who organized the thug attacks. (On Mubarak's behalf, though he's unlikely to be held accountable.)
Posted by: Nell | February 03, 2011 at 05:11 PM
Sounds to me as if someone in the U.S., or the Egyptian army or intel service, made a call to keep the Israeli govt in the loop, with the reality check that Mubarak is nearly done.
This threat should be of interest to Egyptians, but as Helena Cobban points out, there are a ton of ways for a new govt to be more helpful to Palestinians without violating the agreement (and the U.S. would never bless a transition govt that didn't pledge to honor the agreement).
In related news, Fatah and Hamas public non-support to Egyptian demos, and repression against Palestinian efforts at solidarity demos in WB and Gaza, may clear way for actual Palestinian leadership in future. Fatah/PA particularly, of course, after Palestinian Papers.
Posted by: Nell | February 03, 2011 at 05:30 PM
The question I have is, how sure are we that a majority of the country supports the call for Mubarak's immediate ouster, with attendant disorder, versus a September election followed by elections?
(I'm not saying I'm convinced that leaving it until September is a good idea, safe, or whatever.)
I think we frequently underestimate the degree of support that autocratic regimes have in the population. A lot of people will have been included in the spoils from the regime, and a lot of other people will have no faith that the next government will be any better, or actively fear majoritarian rule for real or imaginary reasons.
The suppression of news coverage and the arrival of large numbers of pro-regime but non-uniformed thugs on the ground sets the stage for a very unpleasant resolution to the protests in the square. That is what repressive regimes specialize in and again, I think we often underestimate the skills of these regimes to do bad things without creating a public record. That's how they've remained in power for 30 years. They're not bumbling idiots.
Posted by: Jacob Davies | February 03, 2011 at 05:35 PM
I'm sorry, I have been assuming that the US had long since (a week counts as "long since" in this context) told the Egyptian Army privately that their $1.3 billion a year was at risk if they sided against the protesters. If not, then absolutely that point should be made. I'm not sure that it would help to make it publicly -- who wants to be seen as having been bribed/pressured? But it should be made.
However, a couple of points:
First, how credible would such a threat be? I mean, assume that the army installs a new autocrat. Would we really refuse to deal with them? (Especially since Pakistan shows the down side of cutting off contacts with a military which effectively runs a major country.) More to the point, would anyone believe that we really would?
And then, once we play that card, if it doesn't work, is there anything further available that we could do (or credibly threaten to do)?
I'd love to see us support the protesters. I think it would be best not to act like we are running (or trying to run) the change. But back-channel support? Sure. The question is how? (And how would all of us here know if we were or were not?)
Posted by: wj | February 03, 2011 at 05:36 PM
WJ: Perhaps raise tariffs on items like cotton.
But yeah, if they call our bluff, we don't have much left.
Also JD: I agree, but it sure seems like there's more widepsread support for the protesters here than, say, in Iran.
Posted by: Eric Martin | February 03, 2011 at 05:56 PM
Good piece on military ties w/Egypt:
http://bit.ly/e4lsfo
Again, from your friendly neighborhood E-Mart, so the shortened link is safe to click on.
Posted by: Eric Martin | February 03, 2011 at 05:59 PM
"Egyptians are on the cusp of changing the very premise of what is possible. That’s intoxicating".
The intoxication of the mass action has effected even Benjamin Orbach, Barack Obama, and Benjamin Netanyahu. Sweeping remarks from all of them.
But some morning-after, some of them will remember that Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood has declared jihad not only on Israel, but on the United States. I guess it must be "Moderate Jihad". For a while.
And the only organized alternative to the jihad of the MB is some new leader put forth by the Egyptian Army. Hopefully not in uniform.
I love intoxication as much as the rest of you, but I feel I'm duty-bound to be the designated driver, and point out that this whole transition is not likely to end well for the Egyptians, or for the rest of us.
But since there's little we outside of Egypt can do about it, we may as well enjoy the intoxication while it lasts.
Posted by: Fred | February 03, 2011 at 06:11 PM
"irst, how credible would such a threat be? I mean, assume that the army installs a new autocrat. Would we really refuse to deal with them? (Especially since Pakistan shows the down side of cutting off contacts with a military which effectively runs a major country.) More to the point, would anyone believe that we really would?"
This is odd to me. Is that what being an imperialist superpower means? We have no choice, but to give billions to any thug with a military or they might support terrorists?
Posted by: Donald Johnson | February 03, 2011 at 06:33 PM
Suggestions for action from Mona Eltawahy (who while in Tahrir Square today learned that her father was arrested at an office with other lawyers and human rights monitors):
They are very reminiscent of the kinds of actions that people like me called for in response to the coup in Honduras in late June 2009. Then, the U.S. didn't act quickly enough or seriously enough. There were clear signs as early as two days on that the State Dept had to pretend that the June 28, 2009 coup wasn't really a _military_ coup, so no serious cutting of aid, and to let the November elections "solve" it. They signaled throughout that the military-business oligarchy could repress at will and stall for time, so they did. And the result has been a roll-back to 1982 conditions, with non-stop assassinations, kidnapings, torture, and assaults on demonstrators. Lovely.
I can get right to the naming and shaming Eltahawy calls for, not least because one of the major lobbyists for Mubarak was the same shop whoring for the Honduran coup regime: Chlopak Leonard Schechter.
Other players: Toby Moffett (who began as a Nader staffer; now that I'm getting old it's intriguing to see where people take their turns; Moffett's been all about the benjamins for at least the last 20 years), Tony Podesta (brother of John P. of CAP/CAF), and Bob Livingston. All scum.
More on the lobbyists here.
Posted by: Nell | February 03, 2011 at 10:50 PM
But some morning-after, some of them will remember that Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood has declared jihad not only on Israel, but on the United States.
Cite?
Posted by: gwangung | February 03, 2011 at 10:56 PM
Yeah Fred, do you have a citation to that declaration of jihad against the US?
Thanks in advance.
Posted by: Eric Martin | February 04, 2011 at 10:06 AM
Cutting off aid clearly not being threatened seriously with Adm. Mullen out saying "not now".
So we're hanging in with Suleiman. Gosh, I'm proud to be an American. (Cause at least I know I'm free.)
Posted by: Nell | February 04, 2011 at 10:41 AM
The question I have is, how sure are we that a majority of the country supports the call for Mubarak's immediate ouster, with attendant disorder, versus a September election followed by elections?
What incentive does Mubarak have to step down in September? I don't see why his word is credible.
This is odd to me. Is that what being an imperialist superpower means? We have no choice, but to give billions to any thug with a military or they might support terrorists?
The idea that a great power is often hostage to the actions of its client states is not new, but has been frequently observed over the past 100+ years.
Posted by: Scott de B. | February 04, 2011 at 01:57 PM
I see any overt US interference, regardless of how benign, as posing a high risk of tainting the process, if process is the right word for what's going on there.
The question I have is, how sure are we that a majority of the country supports the call for Mubarak's immediate ouster, with attendant disorder, versus a September election followed by elections?
If free/open elections in 6 weeks or 3 months result from some kind of interim caretaker gov't, this point is mooted by the fact that a vote will have been taken and everyone's choice will have been registered.
Mubarak's continued presence, and particularly his presence administering an election, would taint any outcome. He needs to be gone and let there be a vote. Whether we like the result is beside the point.
Posted by: McKinneyTexas | February 04, 2011 at 02:50 PM
I see any overt US interference, regardless of how benign, as posing a high risk of tainting the process, if process is the right word for what's going on there.
I don't disagree, but it's hard for the US to claim it is a neutral party given the enormous amounts of aid to Egypt over the past 30+ years - which has done so much to consolidate Mubarak's control.
Tricky is an understatement.
Posted by: Eric Martin | February 04, 2011 at 03:25 PM
"The idea that a great power is often hostage to the actions of its client states is not new, but has been frequently observed over the past 100+ years."
I was being somewhat rhetorical. To be clearer, I don't think we have to be imperialists. If we give billions to a country and the government oppresses its people, we can stop. One can deal with oppressive regimes without supporting them as they commit human rights violations.
What we get from our relationship with Egypt is a continuation of the Camp David peace agreement. If that means the continued oppression of 80 million people with us linked to it, the cost is too high. Egypt can be deterred from attacking Israel in more direct ways (assuming that any government which comes into power is actually tempted to do so). And if they merely express disgust with Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, good. They'd be right to do so. The in-between case, where they don't go to war, but provide weapons to Hamas, is dicy, but still not a good enough reason for supporting a very unpopular regime.
I had this argument in a more extreme form with a friend several years ago. I told him about how Indonesia slaughtered the Timorese and how the US gave Indonesia weapons and support. His response (and he's a liberal) was to say "What would you do? If the US hadn't supplied the weapons, someone else would have."
I think this argument is a form of insanity. We don't have to be the world's policeman (which he also accused me of wanting), but that doesn't mean we have to actively support some of the criminals.
Posted by: Donald Johnson | February 04, 2011 at 04:26 PM
but that doesn't mean we have to actively support some of the criminals.
WE are the criminals.
Posted by: someotherdude | February 05, 2011 at 03:28 AM
"I love intoxication as much as the rest of you, but I feel I'm duty-bound to be the designated driver, and point out that this whole transition is not likely to end well for the Egyptians, or for the rest of us."
That's terrific. Who designated you, and could you show us the breathalyzer results, please?
Alternatively, it's possible to state your own opinion without asserting that your opinion is subjectively superior to that of others.
Begging the question is a fallacy, not an argument.
Simply making your argument, and supporting it with cites and links to facts, will be quite sufficient to convince most that your opinion is correct.
But you aren't actually the "driver" of this blog, and you've not been designated to be one. I really think some of us would have heard, otherwise.
Eric: your February 03, 2011 at 05:59 PM link goes to the National Journal, and a piece entitled Military Exercised by Yochi J. Dreazen.
Copyright 2010 by National Journal Group Inc. Which is part of The Atlantic's media group.
Posted by: Gary Farber | February 05, 2011 at 06:19 AM
Fred:
You may remember that, but it isn't true.Try Muslim Brotherhood, and History of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
Alternatively, you can provide cites to where you get your notion that "that Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood has declared jihad not only on Israel, but on the United States" and we can discuss substance. Hssan al-Banna, for instance, or Qutbism.
But why don't you start with some cites to your own reading, first? I could bury you with thousands of mine, and that would be tiresome.
Posted by: Gary Farber | February 05, 2011 at 07:22 AM