by Eric Martin
On Saturday, the New York Times reported that Iran has been providing cash to certain high ranking Karzai administration officials. This should be a rather unsurprising revelation and, if anything, a welcomed one: Afghanistan and Iran share a common border, and Iran has legitimate interests in Afghanistan (considering Iran's proximity, it would be hard to argue that our interests somehow dwarf theirs, relatively speaking). In fact, the Taliban were/are quite hostile to Iran and the indigenous Shiite minority - so much so that Iran has been, at times, significantly cooperative with US efforts in Afghanistan.
In the present instance, Iran stands accused of funneling money to the Karzai government. Not exactly working at cross purposes considering our ongoing support for Karzai. Nevertheless, the State Department released a statement that shows such a stark lack of self-awareness that it borders on comedy:
The U.S. said Iran shouldn’t interfere with Afghanistan’s internal affairs following a report that an Iranian official gave an aide of President Hamid Karzai a bag filled with packets of euro bills.
“We understand that Iran and Afghanistan are neighbors and will have a relationship,” Philip J. Crowley, a State Department spokesman, said in an e-mailed statement “But Iran should not interfere with the internal affairs of the Afghan government.” [emphasis added]
No, apparently, only the US should "interfere with the internal affairs of the Afghan government." By, say, putting certain Afghan officials on the CIA payroll. But that's not interference, that's liberation.
At least Crowley acknowledged their status as neighbors, and that this might necessitate "a relationship." On the other hand, America is, apparently, neighbors of the world, and its relationships are always, well, special. Exceptional if you will.
For what it's worth, Hamid Karzai seems to grasp the contours of the situation, without the American-centric lenses:
At a news conference with the president of Tajikistan, Karzai told reporters that he had ordered Daudzai to receive the money, but that Iran was just one of several nations that poured money into Afghan coffers.
"This is a relationship between neighbors and it will go on and we will continue to ask for cash help from Iran," Karzai said.
Karzai said the money was used to "help the presidential office" and said they have been "transparent" payments that he had discussed with then-President George W. Bush.
"It is not hidden," Karzai said. "We are grateful for the Iranians' help in this regard. The United States is doing the same thing. They are providing cash to some of our offices." [emphasis added]
The same, but different.
I'm gratified to see the Karzai government, despite its notable flaws, in this instance displays superior transparency regarding foreign money flows than the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
Posted by: Countme? | October 25, 2010 at 03:56 PM
Prediction: The same people saying that Citizens United wasn't that big a deal and that there's nothing wrong about the US Chamber of Commerce accepting foreign money will use this as evidence that Iran is a dangerous rogue state, meddling in its neighbours affairs.
Posted by: Joshua | October 25, 2010 at 04:02 PM
"He can't do that to our pledges."
"Only we can do that to our pledges."
Posted by: Hogan | October 25, 2010 at 04:19 PM
That would have been a better title to this post.
Posted by: Eric Martin | October 25, 2010 at 04:25 PM
Some would call it uncommon, even.
Posted by: Slartibartfast | October 25, 2010 at 05:05 PM
Seems like similar thinking to the objections against "internal aggression" during the Cold War- often meaning "factions within a foreign state that do not align with US interests". So we're not "meddling" in Afghani affairs- we're *helping*, because the true interests of the Afghani people are aligned with the interests of the US- even if they are slow to realize it.
It's not so much funny that advocates of the US think that we're doing good (I suspect that most people think this)- it's that this becomes such an article of faith that they cannot imagine anyone (even a foreigner getting bombed for the greater good) seeing it in any other way.
Posted by: Carleton Wu | October 25, 2010 at 05:12 PM
Among the many flaws of the Bush approach to foreign policy was the rejection of Iranian help in Afghanistan after the ousting of the Taliban. Iran supported the Northern Alliance as we did but then we stayed in Afghanistan and then invaded Iraq. You might want to point out that Iran has a common border with Iraq as well.
So, the neocons reject Iran inn Afghanistan and throw out Saddam so we have troops on two borders. That's not just common but downright barbaric.
Posted by: Tom M | October 25, 2010 at 06:34 PM
"Among the many flaws of the Bush approach to foreign policy was the rejection of Iranian help in Afghanistan after the ousting of the Taliban."
I wonder when we will (apologies to Eric, nice post) focus on the Obama administrations mistakes. They, at least, might be impacted somehow.
Posted by: Marty | October 25, 2010 at 07:35 PM
"I wonder when we will (apologies to Eric, nice post) focus on the Obama administrations mistakes."
Be assured I have a long list I hope to get to. Quite long.
However, the next couple of weeks I continue to pack and move, and then will be unpacking and setting up new life in new state, so no promises of anything soon.
Meanwhile, I wouldn't want to count how many posts Eric has made criticizing Obama's Afghanistan policy, among other Obama policies.
Of course, many of us criticize Obama from what could loosely be simplified as being from varieties of left or liberal points of view; I don't know if you find that sufficiently satisfactory criticism of Obama.
Posted by: Gary Farber | October 25, 2010 at 07:58 PM
I wonder when we will (apologies to Eric, nice post) focus on the Obama administrations mistakes. They, at least, might be impacted somehow.
I thought Eric was doing quite a good job of that vis a vis the Afghanistan 'surge'. At least, it'd hard to argue that Eric hasn't been critical of the Administration's foreign policy, regardless of whether you think those criticisms are valid.
Posted by: Carleton Wu | October 25, 2010 at 07:59 PM
"Meanwhile, I wouldn't want to count how many posts Eric has made criticizing Obama's Afghanistan policy, among other Obama policies."
I agree, thus my apologies. Sorry I wasn't clear.
And I find this quite satisfactory:
Posted by: Marty | October 25, 2010 at 08:52 PM
Actually, the New York Times completely changed its spin from the first report to the second.
In the first article, the story was that special witnesses gave the NYT info that Karzai's aide was undermining the government because of his ties to Iran, thus he was receiving the bags of cash. There was no suggestion whatsoever that this was approved by Karzai.
In the second article, Karzai left no confusion as to the fact that the cash-bags were fully known to him, approved by him, and well-known to the US government since Bush.
I saw no acknowledgement whatsoever that the prior spin was absolute nonsense.
Posted by: El Cid | October 26, 2010 at 11:48 AM
"I saw no acknowledgement whatsoever that the prior spin was absolute nonsense."
I don't know what you'd like anyone to do with this information about your opinion unless you'd like to give URLs to the two versions, and specify the changed words and phrases you'd like us to discuss.
We can't discuss your abstract notions of "spin" unanchored in other than the word "spin," and your declared opinion.
We *can* discuss what the Times did and didn't print, and possibly why, if you'd like to provide the relevant info.
Posted by: Gary Farber | October 26, 2010 at 01:01 PM
What is the point in bothering to vote for candidates in the U.S. anyway? Issues on the ballot I can understand taking the time to vote for or against for example if you live in California there's a reason to vote for Proposition 19 if for nothing else to further expose the Obama administration as reactionary by its response to its passage. But for actual candidates? Total waste of time.
After the Dems swept into power in Congress in the 2006 midterms on a platform of "Vote for us if you want to end the war in Iraq" and then refused to actually do anything to, you know, end the war in Iraq like cutting off funding for it by refusing to vote on supplementals that should have told anybody with common sense that they've been bamboozled. After Obama gets elected as a supposed "change agent" and despite a Dem majority Senate and House gives the American people a health care "reform" bill written by the big insurance companies and Big Pharma; after giving us a Wall Street "reform" bill written by Wall Street that does nothing to prevent their casino-like behavior; after getting a Nobel Peace Prize then immediately escalating the gas pipeline war in Afghanistan; after promising us a government of accountability then adamantly refusing to have his attorney general go after the war criminals Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice, as apparantly accountability for torture, for the mainstreaming of police state measures with the Patriot Act and the starting of a war of aggression isn't worthy of examining as he's "moving forward, not looking backward"; as Obama has enshrined these police state measures and expanded upon them; and as Obama's surrounded himself with an administration made up of ruling class pukes from the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg Group and A.I.P.A.C. what can a sensible, informed person conclude but that it is an exercise in futility to go out and vote? Why bother when all the wealthy ruling elite will allow us to vote for are obvious conservatives and thinly-disguised conservatives? That's as undemocratic as Saddam Hussein's elections but with somewhat more sophistication.
Unless private money is taken completely out of political campaigns with each candidate instead getting an equal (but small) amount of public funding with campaigns lasting a couple months instead of a couple years the system will continue to be as artificial as professional wrestling. Candidates will continue to be nothing more than puppets of their wealthy corporate backers, answering to them instead of the average people of this country. Face it America: You don't have a democracy. What you have is a dog & pony show every few years, designed to make you think you have a say in what kind of government governs you. It is painfully obvious that you don't.
Posted by: Bullhorn among the deaf | October 26, 2010 at 04:46 PM
Then don't do anything with it. I don't remember requesting anything from you, agreement or otherwise. You don't think I proved a point? Fine. Why would I care what you did or didn't think was proven? Don't agree then. Go eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
But, for the heck of it, here it is.
The first article is the one quoted above at the top of the page. This page. You probably could have gone and read it yourself. Maybe. But I guess without a URL in my comment, it's too difficult.
The focus is on Daudzai. His "loyalty" is being bought by Iran. His cash-bag acceptance threatens to "poison relations" between Mr. Karzai and the US.
The main actor is Daudzai. That is what the article emphasizes. Those are the unnamed sources' concerns.
On Monday the NYT reported this:
That is the spin that was changed.
With Karzai's clear statements, it can no longer be suggested based on unnamed Afghan and Western sources that the aide Daudzai is "poisoning" Karzai's relation to the US because Iran is "buying his loyalty".
So the NYT was certainly correct about Iranian cash sent to the Karzai government, and that it was given to Daudzai, but there is no longer the suggestion that Daudzai's loyalties were being purchased in order to poison the relationship between Karzai and the US.
Posted by: El Cid | October 26, 2010 at 10:19 PM
Of course, if one is moralizing about conflict of interest or corruption, it seems hypocritical. But it isn't about morality. Iran and the US are opponents, competing for power, and the US naturally and correctly objects to Iran projecting its power. I also object. Especially since most of Iran's money comes from the West.
Posted by: AreaMan | October 27, 2010 at 02:05 PM
Of course, if one is moralizing about conflict of interest or corruption, it seems hypocritical. But it isn't about morality.
Yes, which is why it's ridiculous for the State Department to be moralizing about "interference in the internal affairs of the Afghan government."
Posted by: Hogan | October 27, 2010 at 02:14 PM
Iran and the US are opponents, competing for power
Earlier US policy in Iraq was driven, to a not inconsequential extent, by the ridiculous promises of a paid agent of Iran. In return, we solved Iran's central strategic challenge for a generation.
The problem of Afghanistan was obviously much less important to Iran, but here again, we managed to put Iran's clients into power.
The idea that our removal of hostile neighboring regimes would be seen as a threat -- because liberty and democracy are so contagious (I mean really, just think about how much impact internal political developments in Canada and Mexico have on internal US politics) -- belongs on the same heap as Teahadi rhetoric about taking back the government (from the people writing the medicare and SS checks the teahadis collect).
Posted by: CharleyCarp | October 28, 2010 at 10:34 AM
Over on Unqualified Offerings (highclearing.com),
one of the bloggers put it very simply (quote from memory; I can't find the post):
"We have words for somebody who accepts money from foreign intelligence services, and they aren't pretty. Once somebody's accepting money from one foreign spy agency, it's foolish to think that he'll turn down others. No matter what she tells you, you are not her only John."
Posted by: Barry | October 28, 2010 at 06:10 PM
Thanks for clarifying the point you were going for, El Cid.
Posted by: Gary Farber | October 29, 2010 at 12:43 PM