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June 08, 2010

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What an insane, scared, pathetic little man McCarthy is.

And I've never understood the so-called, "anti-government", federalistic, pro-constituion, etc. right's abohorrence of due process, not just for terrorism suspects, but with anyone accused of a crime by the authorities in general. As if, the supposed incompetence of the State disappears in such instances. Just bizarre.

Andrew McCarthy is the poor man's Jonah Goldberg.

If you take out "Islamist" and substitute "communist", this sounds like the "conservative" rhetoric of the cold war era.

Damn. So many trees were killed to publish this bullbleep...

When 40,000 unsold copies go back to the publisher, I hope they at least recycle the paper.

Unfortunately the brain cells that were lost in the reading are probably unrecoverable.

I often wonder if the people who say these things believe them, or merely think that they can get others to believe them via a lot of hand-waving. Or if no one other than the mentally ill believe it, but many find it socially or politically convenient to profess such beliefs rather than debate eg healthcare on the merits.
Or if maybe Im vastly underestimating the people I should be lumping into "mentally ill".

I often wonder if the people who say these things believe them...

1. Everything the RW says and (professes to) believe is projection. They accuse "the Left" and "Islamofascists" and so on of hating the West, hating America, and hating freedom.

The truth is plain to anyone who's heard them go off about women, racial and gender minorities, science, the arts, etc. upon etc: It's the Right that hates the West (the anti-fundamentalist secularism, logic-based science, progressivism traits that make the West the West), and definitely hates America.

Everything McCarthy accuses "the Left" of believing, you can be very sure he believes himself.

2. Also, and alternatively: They're saying what they wish was true; and they wish it were true in order to justify their own fearfulness, and the rage that comes from the fear.

This is one of the books aroused Redcrap denizens read to their goats at bedtime. It's like a date-rape drug -- the goats become soporific and permit Erickson's clumsy pokings aft without causing a stampede.

I like to react to vomit like McCarthy's in the spirit of "become the demon they think you are", just to see what happens.

I now have one uniform for each day of the week to wear when I supply the dreaded knock-at-the-door these paranoid haters want to hear -- Monday's child is Nazi leathers, jackboots, swastikas a monocle and a sidecar -- Tuesday's is a tuniced Stalin -- Wednesday finds me a dapper Mao jacket taking a swim in the Yang-sze, Thursday's costume is a brilliant Bin Laden thobe fluttering in the breeze -- Friday,I'm the dreaded hippie in a bomb-factory, but Saturday's fever-dream is Abraham Lincoln all in black, beseeching the new Confederacy to stand-down and lighten up on the rhetoric.

Alas, Sunday's demon is Sherman marching to the sea -- leaving this alien, anti-American beast and their goats burned to the ground and this time, unlike the old Confederacy, eternally silent.


"precisely because the Left is working to ensure that Constitutional protections still apply to the accused and, in some cases, convicted."

Well, except for the Constitutional protections you typically work to make sure don't apply to anybody at all...

Ah Brett, bringing it back to guns.

And, for the record, which Democratic politicians or major leftist figures are in favor of banning public ownership of firearms?

Well, except for the Constitutional protections you typically work to make sure don't apply to anybody at all...

I understand that this is something of a nervous tic with you, but do you not recognize how this total non sequitur adds nothing to the conversation?
If you have to, you can try typing in such comments and then deleting them. Perhaps this will discharge the needed energies without embarrassingly waving your neuroses around in public.

Eric,
DNFTT. Engaging on the issues with such an obvious threadjack can produce no good outcome.

if we're gonna play the guilt-by-common-goals game, it seems much simpler to take OBL's stated desire to embroil the US in a series of bank-draining endless wars and link it to the GOP's barely-restrained desire to give him those wars.

ergo, Republicans want what terrorists want: a broken and bankrupt America.

QED.

it's easy to be as smart as McCarthy!

@ Thullen

Knew it was you even before I scrolled down.

You're my commenting hero, you know.

If Andrew McCarthy had made a joke about Obama's intelligence, would John Boehner be demanding an apology?

The obvious explanation for this phenomenon of course is that Jews are (a) mostly liberals who believe in due process and (b) a historically persecuted group that gets anxious about groups of people being singled out and denied basic legal rights.

(b) is an easy assumption to make in the abstract, but it often breaks down badly in the real world. It's far from being universally true that people who are part of historically persecuted groups have this tender anxiety for the rights of other persecuted groups.

I could give examples from my own experience, but since anecdota <> data and I don't have time anyhow, just look at the Israelis and the Palestinians.

"And, for the record, which Democratic politicians or major leftist figures are in favor of banning public ownership of firearms?"
Well, I can't think of any at the moment.

I am extremely jealous of Andrew McCarthy. Nobody pays to read the bald faced lies and crap I write.

If you take out "Islamist" and substitute "communist", this sounds like the "conservative" rhetoric of the cold war era.

Dingdingdingdingding! We have a winner!

The reason why Bush Republicans treated 9/11 like a godsend is because for their purposes, it was: American Republican conservatism revolves around a melodramatic grand struggle against the Other. When the Berlin Wall fell and the Soviet Union dissolved, they lost the boogeyman they'd used to scare Americans into voting for them for decades.

The tragedy of 9/11 simply allowed Republicans to seamlessly transition from red-baiting to green-baiting. All the lines are the same, you just change the bad guy in their ideological mad lib.

The tragedy of 9/11 simply allowed Republicans to seamlessly transition from red-baiting to green-baiting.

Let's not forget the brief period when they were preparing China for the Black Hat role, before they got distracted. Get aggressive & provoke a response, then blare the response across the airwaves...
All of which went by the wayside after 9/11, and the US became focused on an 11th century geopolitical conflict instead of a 21st century one.

What do you expect from people that claim that Bismarck was a stinking commie?
Or for that matter that Hitler and the Nazis were the spearhead of the Jewish world conspiracy (the Holocaust being just a pawn sacrifice)?

I think Andrew McCarthy suffers from the bile fed to him at a young age by his father Charlie, who never quite got over his treatment by Edgar Bergen.

heh

(b) is an easy assumption to make in the abstract, but it often breaks down badly in the real world. It's far from being universally true that people who are part of historically persecuted groups have this tender anxiety for the rights of other persecuted groups.

Ain't it the truth, JanieM.

Carleton Wu: It's through stuff like this that I've come to believe the answer can often be a sort of perfect Schrodinger's Cat superposition. The person is okay with it being absolutely true - or the person is okay with any aspects of it being a distortion because it's on OUR SIDE and MAY HELP our side - and the person is completely okay with it staying right there and present, without the need to ever look at it and ask if it's true or not.

This accounts for the weird sparkly-eyed smile when the person is confronted by seemingly-difficult contradictions or objections, and the happy, defiant vigor with which the person then just says the exact same thing again. It isn't deafness to the other side. It's a magic moment when, if what's said forces some part of the person's mind back to the accuracy-question, the person bounces off the question because of the unreachable impervious fact that it doesn't matter whether it's really sound or not. And then the irrelevant box closes, unglanced-into, and the person propounds again with full fire and certainty.

This with all sorts of topics over the years.

I think Andrew McCarthy suffers from the bile fed to him at a young age by his father Charlie

More his uncle Joe.

As an aside, Eric -- thanks for the post title. I've spend the last two days hearing in my head The Band's Richard Manuel singing "Tears of Rage".

(There are some recordings one no longer needs to own, as the sounds are permanently graved in the mind.)

Yeah, I've listened to it on ye olde ipod no less than thrice since I posted this piece.

FWIW, the ear viruses affect me at least as much as anyone else. Self inflicted wounds, of course, but inflicted nonetheless.

But yeah, that is a great song. From a great record. By a great band. Who are great.

Why does John Thullen hate goats?

Thank you for this. I've been following him for a while on NRO and he is as bad as it gets, but this book takes it to a whole new level.

Disgraceful.

When 40,000 unsold copies go back to the publisher, I hope they at least recycle the paper.

Oh, they'll sell. Right wing organizations buy these sorts of books by the truckload. One reason is to artificially jack up the sales figures on the best-seller lists.

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