by Eric Martin
There are some interesting, if extremely disturbing, developments stemming from the legal process surrounding alleged al-Qaeda operative, and Gitmo prisoner, Abu Zubaydah:
Attorneys defending Abu Zubaydah, a Guantanamo prisoner designated as the first "high-value" detainee by the Bush administration, have finally gained access to three volumes of diaries he wrote while he was in the custody of the CIA and brutally tortured by agency interrogators and contractors at a secret "black site" prison.
The diaries, identified as volumes 7, 8 and 9, were written between 2002 and 2006 and total a little more than 300 pages. They were turned over to defense attorneys by the government late last year after a lengthy legal battle, and are believed to contain detailed descriptions of the torture techniques to which Zubaydah was subjected.
The diaries are crucial to the defense, said one of Zubaydah's attorneys, Brent Mickum, because they will reveal locations of where Zubaydah was detained and identify people with whom he spoke, contradicting previous government assertions that Zubaydah was connected to and involved in the planning of terrorist plots against the United States.
The diaries could also be used to piece together the timeline of the various torture techniques used against Zubaydah, a chronolgy that has thus far been difficult to corroborate due to the serendipitous destruction of the video tapes of the interrogations:
Zubaydah was one of two high-value detainees whose interrogations between April and August of 2002 were captured on 90 videotapes that the CIA destroyed in November 2005 as public attention began focusing on allegations that the Bush administration had subjected "war on terror" prisoners to brutal interrogations that crossed the line into torture.
The destruction of the videotapes has been the subject of an ongoing investigation led by John Durham, a US attorney from Connecticut, who was appointed special prosecutor in 2008 by former Attorney General Michael Mukasey to probe whether crimes were committed by CIA personnel and others in connection with the destruction of the tapes. [...]
One of the lingering questions about the torture tapes is whether it showed CIA interrogators using techniques on Zubaydah that had not yet been approved by the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel (OLC). The OLC is where attorneys John Yoo and Jay Bybee had worked.
Yoo was the principal author of two August 2002 torture memos that Bybee signed, which gave the CIA the legal authority to torture Zubaydah using ten techniques, such as waterboarding, slamming his head repeatedly against a wall and forcing him to remain awake for as long as 11 consecutive days. Documents released last year showed that Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times during the month of August 2002.
Mickum said he always contended the tapes showed Zubaydah being subjected to torture methods - particularly waterboarding - prior to the legal authorization issued by the Justice Department and that was one of the primary reasons the CIA destroyed the videotapes.
Below are potentially the most explosive revelations and, if true, reveal a level of callous depravity that is beyond mere sadism:
Mickum's hunch appears to be correct. Several tapes that were destroyed showed CIA interrogators using a combination of brutal torture techniques against Zubaydah beginning in mid-April 2002, four months before these techniques were legally authorized in the notorious torture memos issued by OLC. Additionally, there were at least three videotapes that showed Zubaydah being waterboarded in late May and early June 2002.
That information is based on interviews conducted over the past 14 months with three dozen current and former officials at the CIA, the FBI, the Department of Defense, the National Security Council, the State Department and the Justice Department, who have intimate knowledge about Zubaydah, have seen classified documents related to his torture, as well as the raw intelligence reports leading up to his capture. Many of these current and former officials are also familiar with the Guantanamo Review Task Force's conclusions about Zubaydah. (An in-depth investigative report based on these interviews will be published at a later date.)
These sources, all of whom spoke on condition of anonymity because details remain classified, said one of the main reasons Zubaydah's early torture sessions were videotaped was to gain insight into his "physical reaction" to the techniques used against him, which was then shared with officials at the CIA and the Justice Department, who used that information to help draft the August 2002 torture memo stating what interrogation methods could be legally used, how often the methods could be employed and how it should be administered without crossing the line into torture.
For example, one current and three former CIA officials said some videotapes showed Zubaydah being sleep deprived for more than two weeks. Contractors hired by the CIA studied how he responded psychologically and physically to being kept awake for that amount of time. By looking at videotapes, they concluded that after the 11th consecutive day of being kept awake Zubaydah started to "severely break down." So, the torture memo concluded that 11 days of sleep deprivation was legal and did not meet the definition of torture.
"I would describe it this way," said one former National Security official. "[Zubaydah] was an experiment. A guinea pig. I'm sure you've heard that a lot. There were many enhanced interrogation [methods] tested on him that have never been discussed before we settled on the 10 [techniques]."
In essence, if true, the Bush administration used human guinea pigs to test out various torture techniques in order to craft a legal doctrine of permissible abuse of detainees. There really needs to be legal accountability for that if these reports are confirmed.
There really needs to be legal accountability for that if these reports are confirmed.
Didn't Congress retroactively immunize all these guys already?
Posted by: Ugh | March 30, 2010 at 11:58 AM
By looking at videotapes, they concluded that after the 11th consecutive day of being kept awake Zubaydah started to "severely break down." So, the torture memo concluded that 11 days of sleep deprivation was legal and did not meet the definition of torture.
How scientific. All humans react identically to all types stress, right? The calculated depravity wasn't even properly calculated.
Posted by: hairshirthedonist | March 30, 2010 at 12:15 PM
Yoo was the principal author of two August 2002 torture memos that Bybee signed, which gave the CIA the legal authority to torture Zubaydah using ten techniques, such as waterboarding, slamming his head repeatedly against a wall and forcing him to remain awake for as long as 11 consecutive days.
And on Sunday Yoo had a column in the Philadelphia Inquirer arguing that the HCR bill is an outrageous intrusion on our natural and constitutional liberties and a sign of dangerous arrogance and overreach by the federal government.
This is why I don't buy irony meters any more--they barely last a couple of days before some schmuck comes along and breaks them.
Posted by: Hogan | March 30, 2010 at 12:25 PM
And on Sunday Yoo had a column in the Philadelphia Inquirer...
What a lovely addition to my hometown paper he has been. I wish I had a bird cage to line with his column.
Posted by: hairshirthedonist | March 30, 2010 at 12:31 PM
What kind of immunity did Congress grant (and to whom exactly)? I don't remember the story well, and my googling turned this up:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2009/04/cia-officers-granted-immunity-from-torture-prosecution-update/16268/
Which says that the DoJ has said it won't prosecute CIA officers who relied on the torture memos in good faith. That sounds like de facto immunity to me, but it doesn't seem to preclude eventual prosecution, though that may be politically unrealistic.
Re the torture revelations above: I had (it may still be around somewhere) a book called The Big Book of Weirdos, which was about famous people and their oddities. I remember that it described Idi Amin's post-exile living quarters (I think) as those of a "deranged, sadistic child." That's what this story, and the others, bring to mind. These people sound like children playing at secret agent. They grasp the forms of responsible behavior (Look! We took notes and made it all scientific and everything) without appreciating the content. And these were not, I assume, desk jockeys at the CIA. I imagine that the task of interrogating Zubaydah went to the best agents the CIA felt it could offer.
Posted by: Julian | March 30, 2010 at 12:50 PM
I think Ugh was referring to the Military Commissions Act. I don't have time to look back at it.
Posted by: CharleyCarp | March 30, 2010 at 01:28 PM
Hmm. Using enemies of the state as guinea pigs for horrific medical experiment. I swear I've read about that being done somewhere else.
Posted by: Mike Schilling | March 30, 2010 at 02:03 PM
I think Ugh was referring to the Military Commissions Act. I don't have time to look back at it.
Yes. I think there was a start and end date for that immunity.
Posted by: Ugh | March 30, 2010 at 02:04 PM
"I would describe it this way," said one former National Security official. "[Zubaydah] was an experiment. A guinea pig. I'm sure you've heard that a lot. There were many enhanced interrogation [methods] tested on him that have never been discussed before we settled on the 10 [techniques]."
If this is true, then I don't think that reacting with the word, "Mengele," is unwarranted.
Posted by: Bernard Yomtov | March 30, 2010 at 02:07 PM
Note the bolded part well.
This does not in any way preclude prosecution for torture committed /before/ the memos even existed.
Seriously, though: at the risk of bringing down the wrath of Godwin, this seems to be one area where the Nazi analogy is unambiguously apt. When you start performing experiments in torture on human subjects to watch how they break down and see how much you can get away with, you're getting into Mengele territory--and the difference is one of scale, not kind.
Posted by: Catsy | March 30, 2010 at 02:08 PM
then I don't think that reacting with the word, "Mengele," is unwarranted.
No no no, you see, the Nazis kept detailed records of all these things. The CIA, on the other hand, destroyed the video tapes, so there's a big big difference.
Posted by: Ugh | March 30, 2010 at 03:10 PM
plus, the Nazis thought of themselves as a master race of exceptional people to whom the old rules didn't apply.
we aren't like that at all: we speak English.
Posted by: cleek | March 30, 2010 at 03:46 PM
we speak English.
Which is probably why we had to torture them: they kept giving us information in languages we don't understand. No one to blame but themselves, really.
Posted by: Hogan | March 30, 2010 at 04:27 PM
"Seriously, though: at the risk of bringing down the wrath of Godwin, this seems to be one area where the Nazi analogy is unambiguously apt."
Seriously is right. I was watching Chris Matthews last night (I know, I know) and there was a teapartier guest, who, reacting to the fact that people were calling Obama bad names, reminded Chris that people compared Bush to Hitler. Well, unfortunately, in that case the shoe fit. This is what gets lost in these unfortunate rhetorical battles.
This is what we fight in trying to bring justice to the torture perpetrators through political means (such as a Congressional commission, etc.). The whole false equivalency phenomenon is so frustrating, and many people are confused by it. That's why accountability in a court of law should take place.
That said, I'm hearing more and more political hacks trying to pontificate upon legal issues as well, such as the various lawsuits brought by attorneys general regarding the health care act. If those arguments are argued in a courtroom, they will be based on arguments explicating relevant legal precedent (or theory) and its applicability to very specific language in the act. It just doesn't work well for people who haven't done this research to be musing on the possibilities.
It's pretty depressing. I hope that history sorts it out.
Posted by: Sapient | March 30, 2010 at 04:30 PM
No one to blame but themselves, really.
What?!!? No, goddammit, if English was good enough for God to write the Bible in then its good enough for terrorists to speak.
Posted by: Ugh | March 30, 2010 at 04:34 PM
Oops. I read Hogan's comment as no one to blame but "ourselves.". Clearly no one to blame but themselves is correct.
Posted by: Ugh | March 30, 2010 at 05:29 PM
No no no, you see, the Nazis kept detailed records of all these things. The CIA, on the other hand, destroyed the video tapes, so there's a big big difference.
The Nazis started destroying the recprds when it was clear Germany was going to lose the war. They didn't destroy them all: too many of them. It's a difference of scale: it's easier to destroy the records when there's not so many of them.
It's not as if Obama unambiguously declared torture illegal. He just unambiguously asserted that the US wasn't going to torture prisoners while he was President. (And then did nothing to enforce that, but that's another shameful story.) The next President can go back to torturing prisoners, and next time will likely have learned that there need to be memos declaring what torture methods are legal right at the start of the Presidency.
That's the tradition established by Bush, continued by Obama. Anyone doubt that the next Republican President will take what he learned from Bush and continue on from there?
Posted by: Jesurgislac | March 30, 2010 at 05:40 PM
plus, the Nazis thought of themselves as a master race of exceptional people to whom the old rules didn't apply.
we aren't like that at all: we speak English.
Posted by: cleek | March 30, 2010 at 03:46 PM
Well, you speak American
Posted by: VonSmallhausen | March 30, 2010 at 10:48 PM
I think a slight correction is necessary here. Mengele to my knowledge did not work on better torture techniques but, in his own depraved mind at least, on pure science based on ideology not applicability. The use of human guinea pigs for war related applications (hypothermia and low pressure experiments, tests of new drugs on deliberately infected persons etc.) was done by others with less notorious names. Interestingly a number of those got protected by the US from prosecution and (like the von Braun rocket team) moved to the US to proceed with their work. According to a British documentary from a few years ago (Science and the Swastika, Channel 4, 2004) the US government still blocks all access to related documents and actively tries to suppress and obstruct any inquiry. The results of these inhuman experiments are now part of medical textbooks, rarely acknowledging their origin though.
Today of course it would be difficult to import reputable* experts in the fields of inhumanity, so the US has to do the studies with their own peiople and resources.
*the current expert thugs could, as dirty non-white foreigners, not be given access to the sensitive stuff. The South African white experts are mostly off them market by now iirc.
Posted by: Hartmut | March 31, 2010 at 05:27 AM
The results of these inhuman experiments are now part of medical textbooks
I'm not sure this is right. Nazi methodology was really sloppy, due to their ideology. ISTR most of the results they got weren't robust.
Posted by: ajay | March 31, 2010 at 12:26 PM
the US government still blocks all access to related documents and actively tries to suppress and obstruct any inquiry.
A lot of the documentation concerning the recruitment of Nazis by the OSS (and later the CIA) has been released in the last few years, through the efforts of the Interagency Working Group on Nazi War Crimes.
A good starting point is here.
The FAS has some sources and analysis here.
Old Nazis never die, they just get a new gig.
Posted by: russell | March 31, 2010 at 01:03 PM
Jes: The next President can go back to torturing prisoners, and next time will likely have learned that there need to be memos declaring what torture methods are legal right at the start of the Presidency.
This is, I think, essentially correct and also irreversible.
Posted by: Ugh | March 31, 2010 at 03:54 PM
I'm not sure this is right. Nazi methodology was really sloppy, due to their ideology. ISTR most of the results they got weren't robust.
The applied experiments (not the pseudogenetic ones) were for immediate use by the armed forces and the results were rock-solid. E.g. the new methods how to handle people with hypothermia (e.g. pilotes downed in the sea) are essentially the same today.
Posted by: Hartmut | April 01, 2010 at 06:55 AM
I'm not sure this is right. Nazi methodology was really sloppy, due to their ideology. ISTR most of the results they got weren't robust.
I don't know the details here, but I always thought that sloppiness was perhaps the only thing the Nazis were not guilty of.
Their evil was so perfect that even their one virtue supported it.
Posted by: Bernard Yomtov | April 01, 2010 at 10:07 AM
I don't know the details here, but I always thought that sloppiness was perhaps the only thing the Nazis were not guilty of.
Say what you will about Hitler, but at least the trains ran on time...
(ducks, runs from room, out front door, off into the distance, image fades into horizon)
Posted by: Eric Martin | April 01, 2010 at 10:10 AM
"try the veal, I'm here all week"
Posted by: russell | April 01, 2010 at 12:06 PM
"...the Bush administration used human guinea pigs to test out various torture techniques..."
Eric, for quite a while I've thought the same thing regarding Jose Padilla. What legitimate security or penal purpose explains all the sensory deprivation stuff? I mean, sound and audio deprivation while bringing the guy to court? Looks to me like they were using him as a guinea pig, too.
Posted by: Don | April 01, 2010 at 12:42 PM
What legitimate security or penal purpose explains all the sensory deprivation stuff? I mean, sound and audio deprivation while bringing the guy to court?
Apparently, you are unaware of eye blinking linguistics, and the threat posed thereby. (see, here)
Snark aside, I think you are probably correct. At the very least they were trying out new techniques.
Posted by: Eric Martin | April 01, 2010 at 01:08 PM
Looks to me like they were using him as a guinea pig, too.
I don't think so. The effects of long term isolation and sensory deprivation have already been thoroughly demonstrated within the US domestic prison system, no need for further experiments.
Posted by: russell | April 01, 2010 at 01:19 PM
russ,
I know about the isolation, but have they really delved into full on sens dep like Padilla?
Posted by: Eric Martin | April 01, 2010 at 02:06 PM
No, AFAIK the prison system hasn't used sensory deprivation at the level that was used on Padilla. I believe the intelligence community has done some research.
Sensory deprivation in prisons is a product of the strict isolation regimes used in very high security prisons like Florence, and also solitary confinement programs in other prisons.
It makes people insane.
But no, the level of complete deprivation that was used on Padilla is, to my knowledge, not used in the prison system.
I'm not sure what the purpose of it was in Padilla's case. By all accounts, he has been effectively snuffed out as a human being. There's nobody there anymore.
Posted by: russell | April 01, 2010 at 02:59 PM