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July 10, 2009

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The whole point of the Yoo legal opinion was to create intentionally the argument that executive branch personnel were relying on legal opinions indicating that their activity was lawful, and thereby avoid prosecution. It is the same intentional charade used to dodge culpability for torture, and it is a phony act done with the express purpose of creating this bad faith and fig leaf defense.

Yoo is a disgrace and should be disbarred and also dismissed from Cal's faculty. The fact that he still gets space on editorial pages to spew his crap is amazing and sickening.

Question (not a suggestion, because I am not a lawyer and don't play one on TV):
Can a citizen, or another attorney, or a group (ACLU comes to mind) file a complaint against an attorney (Yoo) with the California bar?
Just asking.

Okay, but I'm still waiting for the "worse than I thought" part ....

What effect has the Yoo saga had on the reputation of the Law School which employs him?

Can a citizen, or another attorney, or a group (ACLU comes to mind) file a complaint against an attorney (Yoo) with the California bar?

Yoo isn't a member of the CA bar, so no. A complaint was filed w/ the PA bar, but they basically shrugged it off on the "these things are being investigated elsewhere" basis, IIRC. Where's Ugh? He knows all about that.

There was also a statute of limitations problem re: the PA bar, I think, though stuff like today's revelations would be covered by the "discovery rule," which means the SOL doesn't begin to run until a reasonable person would be on notice of the wrongdoing.

And we haven’t even discussed Youngstown, which he also completely -- and amazingly -- ignored).

I'm not surprised at all. When Yoo spoke at a forum when I was at law school, I explicitly asked him about Youngstown. He replied that Justice Jackson's opinion was so vague as to be totally meaningless. I have never met someone quite so intellectually dishonest as Prof. Yoo.

But, but, there was no declaration of war, so that limitation obviously does not apply. And each new act of eavesdropping would start the clock anew anyway, so only if the phone call lasted more than 15 days uninterrupted there would be a need to ask the FISA court. Don't you understand basic NatSec logic?

I'm wondering what happens concerning Yoo and Berkeley, as he took a visiting prof prof slot at a new uni in Orange County, so I assume he will be going back to Boalt Hall in September. This article starts off from Brad DeLong's discussion on his blog and gives a range of opinions.

The didn't call him "Mr. Yes" for nothing. I don't think there is anything they (Cheney, Addington) would have asked that he wouldn't have signed off on.

For this reason, it's almost a moot point how poor his legal reasoning was. Just wrap your mind around the core concept that he would say "yes" to anything and it all starts to make "sense."

He replied that Justice Jackson's opinion was so vague as to be totally meaningless.

Maybe he just sees a big inkblot there, like Bork looking at the Ninth Amendment.

"Maybe he just sees a big inkblot there, like Bork looking at the Ninth Amendment."

Maybe he's a venal, mendacious, power-worshipping weasel.

You know, Occam and all that.

Marty, apologies in advance if I've offended your sensibilities with my rude language. But sometimes you really do have to call things by their proper names.

I wonder how ignorant all these other people, such as Bybee, really were about Yoo's activities. Picking a relatively junior person to work solo and "in secret" on something so politically dangerous is standard bureaucratic practice. It seems to me that Yoo has always been the patsy, and like most patsies he flattered himself that he was being admitted to the inner circle.

"It seems to me that Yoo has always been the patsy, and like most patsies he flattered himself that he was being admitted to the inner circle."

Tough luck for him.

It seems to me that Yoo has always been the patsy, and like most patsies he flattered himself that he was being admitted to the inner circle.

Well, Wilmer, I'm sorry indeed to lose you, but I want you to know I couldn't be fonder of you if you were my own son. Well, if you lose a son, it's possible to get another. There's only one Maltese falcon.

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