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April 06, 2009


Has Hinderaker ever tried being waterboarded? That might give us some reason to take his opinion more seriously the US military courts martial, or international tribunals.

Hinderaker doesn't like to let facts or history get in the way of his opinions.

And if George Bush or Dick Cheney have said something, it's god's own truth.

A Short Lexicon of Torture in the Eighties

By Edward Hirsch

That’s not a man in pain
but a Brazilian phone
It won’t be making any outgoing calls.

That’s not a woman sprawling on the floor
But an old-fashioned dance,
like the tango.

Pull up a chair with a knotted rope.
Let’s have a tea party with toast
and hors d’oeuvres.

Let’s take a seat
on the parrot’s perch.
Let’s rock to the Motorola with headphones.

Do you want to bathe
in the porcelain tub?
Do you want to sing to the little hare?

Let’s stroll over to the guest room.
Let’s take a bus ride
to the San Juanica bridge.

Forget the ovens and smokestacks.
Forge the rack and screw,
the tiger’s cage

We’re celebrating a birthday party
in your honor.
We’re lighting candles on your favorite cake.

We’re taking you to a parade
on a sandy beach.
You’re going down in a submarine.

His speech was carried live by Al Jazeera and Al Arabiya, broadcast into countries where "torture" doesn't mean getting your face wet.
Leaving aside the important points that have already been made to the effect that waterboarding is torture and that our government is directly responsible for horrific actions cruder than waterboarding and applied to far more than one or two detainees, the Bush administration doesn't even pass the test Hinderaker sets: we actually kidnapped people for the express purpose of subjecting them to the tender mercies of the countries that even Mr. Hinderaker concedes commit acts of Actual Torture. Maher Arar was taken from an American airport and sent to one of the countries to which Hinderaker alludes to be physically tortured:
"During the more than 10 months he was imprisoned and held in solitary confinement [in Syria], he was beaten regularly with shredded cables.
In another case, that of Binyam Mohamed, we picked him up in Pakistan and sent him to at least three other countries; most relevantly to Mr. Hinderaker's stated guidelines for what constitutes Torture, we consigned Mr. Mohamed to Morocco for a time, where his
genitals were sliced with a scalpel and other torture methods so extreme that waterboarding, the controversial technique of simulated drowning, “is very far down the list of things they did,” the official said.
But hey, whatever lets Hinderaker live with himself.

It was all just fraternity pranks.

"Getting your face wet is pretty clever," but not nearly as clever as "impliedly exaggerated."

Stupid fingers. The " goes over to the left a bit.

"getting your face wet" : waterboarding :: "hanging around" : crucifixion

Goebbels would be proud of his disciples.

I'm against torture in every cases but one: people who justify torture should have to endure the procedures they defend. Waterboard Hinderaker, Sleep deprivation for Giuliani. Stress positions for Rumsfeld. Sexual humiliation for Limbaugh. On second thought scratch that last one. He might enjoy it.

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