by hilzoy
I don't normally read Charles Krauthammer, but Heather Hurlburt at Democracy Arsenal does, and she flagged this startling paragraph:
"In the old days -- from the Venetian Republic to, oh, the Bear Stearns rescue -- if you wanted to get rich, you did it the Warren Buffett way: You learned to read balance sheets. Today you learn to read political tea leaves. If you want to make money on Wall Street (or keep from losing your shirt), you do it not by anticipating Intel's third-quarter earnings but by guessing instead what side of the bed Henry Paulson will wake up on tomorrow."
Think about the first sentence. Krauthammer seems to be saying that whereas today we have to pay attention to politicians to get rich, back in the Olden Days people only had to read balance sheets. The whims of political leaders were, apparently, of no concern to them. Let's be nice to Krauthammer and assume that he's talking about the history of the US and Western Europe, and thus that it would not be fair to adduce the USSR or the later Qing dynasty as counterexamples.
Hurlburt notes that what Krauthammer says isn't true of the Venetian Republic. But the thing is: it isn't true of almost anywhere. It's like saying that from the time of the Venetian Republic until a few months ago, people enjoyed religious liberty or complete social mobility: it's not just false, but spectacularly false. I could pick any one of a large number of examples, but let's just stick to France under Louis XIV:
"During the reign of Louis XIV, competition for access to the spoils of government transformed the character of the French aristocracy. The great families of the realm had to establish residences in the capital or the court itself because the political and factional struggles between the king's courtiers often determined both major and minor economic decisions. Because seeking out royal patronage was more highly rewarded than staying in the provinces to oversee the local economy and local affairs, nobles moved to Paris and devoted themselves to competing for the unearned income handed out by the king. However, nobles needed to invest time and money to acquire the political information that would win them sinecures, posts in the Church, access to commercial or industrial patents of monopoly, or shares in tax farms (often using a false name or straw man). Like firms in the highly centralized nations of present-day Latin America, they had to move their offices to the capital at the expense of their provincial activities. Once transformed into courtiers, the nobility directed much of their activities toward gaining shares in short-term loans to the Crown and trying to persuade the government that the projects of their clients were best suited to national priorities. One hidden cost the mercantile economy had to bear was the extravagant court and social life of Paris, which by the time of Louis XVI consumed almost 6 percent of the state's revenues and an equally significant, but difficult to measure, proportion of private revenues. The calculation scarcely captures the full economic costs of the competition for privilege." (pp. 37-38)
An example of just how much control the King and his government exercised:
"Two of the most extreme examples of the suppression of innovation in France occurred shortly after the death of Colbert during the lengthy reign of Louis XIV. Button-making in France had been controlled by various guilds, depending on the material used, the most important part belonging to the cord- and button-makers' guild, who made cord buttons by hand. By the 1690s, tailors and dealers launched the innovation of weaving buttons from the material used in the garment. The outrage of the inefficient hand-button-makers brought the state leaping to their defence. In the late 1690s, fines were imposed on the production, sale, and even the wearing of the new buttons, and the fines were continually increased. The local guild wardens even obtained the right to search people's houses and to arrest anyone in the street who wore the evil and illegal buttons. In a few years, however, the state and the hand-button-makers had to give up the fight, since everyone in France was using the new buttons.
More important in stunting France's industrial growth was the disastrous prohibition of the popular new cloth, printed calicoes. Cotton textiles were not yet of supreme importance in this era, but cottons were to be the spark of the Industrial Revolution in eighteenth century England. France's strictly enforced policy made sure that cottons would not be flourishing there.
The new cloth, printed calicoes, began to be imported from India in the 1660s, and became highly popular, useful for an inexpensive mass market, as well as for high fashion. As a result, calico printing was launched in France. By the 1680s, the indignant woollen, cloth, silk and linen industries all complained to the state of 'unfair competition' by the highly popular upstart. The printed colours were readily outcompeting the older cloths. And so the French state responded in 1686 by total prohibition of printed calicoes: their import or their domestic production. In 1700, the French government went all the way: an absolute ban on every aspect of calicoes including their use in consumption. Government spies had a hysterical field day: 'peering into coaches and private houses and reporting that the governess of the Marquis de Cormoy had been seen at her window clothed in calico of a white back ground with big red flowers, almost new, or that the wife of a lemonade-seller had been seen in her shop in a casquin of calico'. Literally thousands of Frenchmen died in the calico struggles, either being executed for wearing calicoes or in armed raids against calico-users."
I don't think that counts as "getting rich the Warren Buffett way".
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My best guess is that Krauthammer is doing something I recognize from reading undergraduate papers: saying something that he probably not only doesn't believe, but has scarcely even noticed, simply because it's a nice-sounding way to start a column. It's the same lazy mental habit that leads otherwise intelligent students to write opening sentences like: "Throughout history, philosophers have debated the morality of human cloning." Is this true? Obviously not. Does its truth or falsity play any role in their argument? No. Have they bothered to reflect at all on whether or not people were debating human cloning in, say, ancient Greece, or even Victorian England? No. They just need a suitably impressive-sounding opening sentence, and its actual content is of so little concern to them that they don't even notice its evident absurdity.
The thing is, though: they are students. What's Charles Krauthammer's excuse?
Wasn't all this free-market stuff supposed to be the hot new way of doing things during the Enlightenment? Like, we're all supposed to be Adam Smithing out against the old-fashioned mercantilists? Not that I'm a big fan of futuristic utopian libertarian types, but I think that way of doing it has a more authentic flavor.
Posted by: Neil the Ethical Werewolf | November 29, 2008 at 04:06 PM
Throughout history, philosophers have debated the question: what's Charles Krauthammer's excuse?
Socrates thought it was ignorance, since no man intentionally does wrong. Plato thought the dark horse of Krauthammer's soul overpowered the charioteer. Aristotle more prosaically attributed it to weakness of the will. Augustine went for concupiscence. Down through the ages the debate has raged.
Posted by: John Protevi | November 29, 2008 at 04:11 PM
Throughout history, philosophers have debated the question: what's Charles Krauthammer's excuse?
I'll wager that Nietzsche's explanation (the one involving abysses and gazing) makes the most sense, at least in terms of having both explanatory power with regard to past Krauthammer columns, and predictive power with regard to future columns as yet unwritten.
Posted by: ThatLeftTurnInABQ | November 29, 2008 at 04:28 PM
> nobles moved to Paris and devoted themselves
> to competing for the unearned income handed out by the king.
These are the same folks who, it is said, would bow to the king's food as it was carried past them into the royal chambers.
Man, even Greenspan never got that kind of fealty.
Posted by: Andy | November 29, 2008 at 04:32 PM
Krauthammer is the epitome of the bitter, angry malign soul whose shriveled black heart cripples him far more than his physical disability ever could.
Posted by: anon | November 29, 2008 at 05:05 PM
Krauthammer is a malign disturbance in the cosmic matter. Never has so much bile, hate, fear, and evil condensed down into such an blackhole of preversion.
Posted by: DrDick | November 29, 2008 at 05:13 PM
I was going to say the Charles Krauthammer is an idiot, but I like anon's phrasing much better.
Posted by: AndrewBW | November 29, 2008 at 06:12 PM
I really do need to pop open one of Mancur Olsen's greatest hits, don't I?
Posted by: shah8 | November 29, 2008 at 06:24 PM
"...executed for wearing calicoes"??
I guess we have made some progress since Louis XIV's day: that does seem a bit harsh a way of enforcing a dress code....
Posted by: Jay C | November 29, 2008 at 07:00 PM
The local guild wardens even obtained the right to search people's houses and to arrest anyone in the street who wore the evil and illegal buttons.
We now know which old laws were ripped off for DMCA.
Posted by: freelunch | November 29, 2008 at 07:31 PM
Kant said that Krauthammer's arguments were synthetic and prior to experience.
Posted by: asterisk | November 29, 2008 at 07:32 PM
Does anyone notice that reading a balance sheet has almost nothing in common with anticipating Intel's third-quarter earnings? The first is used to invest long-term, by finding a company that's well-capitalized and can manage its expenses. The other is for a short-term gamble.
And it's almost too obvious to mention that anyone who figured that Cheney's ascension would be good for Haliburton made out like a bandit.
Posted by: Mike Schilling | November 29, 2008 at 08:31 PM
Does anyone notice that reading a balance sheet has almost nothing in common with anticipating Intel's third-quarter earnings? The first is used to invest long-term, by finding a company that's well-capitalized and can manage its expenses. The other is for a short-term gamble.
Any half decent accountant can falsify your balance sheet. If there's anyone here who is desperate to improve the short term stock price of their company, I'd be more than happy to do it for a lot less than it would take to hire a fancy CEO who would provide bogus strategic advice that isn't any more productive.
Posted by: J. Michael Neal | November 29, 2008 at 08:38 PM
I'd love find out if Krauthammer even knows what a balance sheet is.
I'd like to give him a bunch of transactions and ask him to construct a balance sheet and income statement. Nothing complicated, just the sort of thing you'd give as an exercise in an introductory accounting class. Wonder how he'd do.
Posted by: Bernard Yomtov | November 29, 2008 at 08:54 PM
Object: If I can associate Krauthammer's leadin with papers written by ignorant freshmen then I won't have to address his main thesis at all.
My readers will all pile on with clever references to show that they are in agreement with my characterization. [Adam Smith, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Augustine, Nietzsche, "bitter, angry malign soul whose shriveled black heart cripples him", "malign disturbance...blackhole of preversion {sic}", Kant,]
Character assassinated: my work here is done.
Posted by: d'd'd'dave | November 29, 2008 at 09:55 PM
To paraphrase:
//I don't normally read Charles Krauthammer, but Heather Hurlburt at Democracy Arsenal does, and she flagged this startling paragraph:...so now you don't have to read Krauthammer either.//
Posted by: d'd'd'dave | November 29, 2008 at 09:57 PM
my work here is done.
Sure, actually having to defend Krauthammer's many bogus propositions would be the work of several lifetimes.
Posted by: liberal japonicus | November 29, 2008 at 10:52 PM
"Object: If I can associate Krauthammer's lead[-]in with papers written by ignorant freshmen then I won't have to address his main thesis at all."
Given that his main thesis is that "we have gone from a market-driven economy to a politically driven economy.", the post is certainly addressing it. Although to be fair, it seems to me that there wasn't really any intention to carry out an in-depth discussion of his borrowed thesis - rather, hilzoy is giving additional background to how not-even-wrong Krauthammer's being - basically, that's he's so full of fertilizer he's growing cabbages.
Now, if one really wanted to address his column, one would note that this thesis - however (in)accurate - is almost entirely besides the point; the purpose is to try to intimidate the Dems into not actually governing,especially not in ways that go against standard GOP ideology and of course the interests of those the GOP represents. ("Bank presidents" and oil companies is a bit crude and simplistic, but it's a start).
But that's not nearly as interesting as the actual post above.
Anyway, I would like to go on record as being absolutely against the consumption of calicos. What kind of sick . . . oh. Calico fabrics. Ah.
Anyway, back to work. Birthday presents to wrap . . . {yawn} . . .
Posted by: Dan S. | November 29, 2008 at 11:15 PM
I really enjoyed Hilzoy's history lesson, but it was a little facetious to go after his conceit with a full blown assault of literalism. It would have been more appropriate to point out how much easier on average it has been historically to make money by honestly defrauding investors through imaginary money-making schemes (Ponzi schemes, El Dorado, CDOs, ect.) than to work the political game. Then again, I would have never learned anything about Royal French protectionism, which is a huge part of the reason why I love this blog.
Posted by: mds | November 29, 2008 at 11:24 PM
If you want other examples of how wrong his thesis is consider the East India Company or the American railroads. Remember the government stepping in and beating and killing union organizers for corporations in the U.S.
Posted by: Jim Satterfield | November 29, 2008 at 11:54 PM
Maybe d'd'd'dave can do us a favour and explain what Krauthammer's thesis actually is. I read it as 'give the private sector enough money to "rescue the economy" but don't even think of attaching any conditions', but maybe I've missed the finer points.
At least nobody still pretends the road to riches used to lie in getting an education and working hard. It was all about unearned income (aka 'investing') after all.
Posted by: Ken Lovell | November 30, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Alternately, Krauthammer's thesis might be, the banks made mistakes, so they should be allowed to fail. Collateral damage be damned! Look how well it worked in Iraq.
Posted by: Enlightened Layperson | November 30, 2008 at 12:38 AM
What's Charles Krauthammer's excuse?
His job is to shill for his corporate paymasters, and they aren't as picky as you are about facts and logic.
Posted by: Johnny Pez | November 30, 2008 at 02:45 AM
Or, how does Krauthammer account for today's NY Times article on General McCaffrey's influence peddling?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/30/washington/30general.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=print
Posted by: jdog | November 30, 2008 at 07:45 AM
Why does anyone take Krauthammer seriously?
Posted by: Francis D | November 30, 2008 at 08:56 AM
But the thing is: it isn't true of almost anywhere.
I think we have to differentiate a bit here. I know quite a few people who have become rich sometime in the last couple of decades by simply doing their job well, being good with money and maybe a bit of luck, without having paid much attention to those in positions of political power, let alone influenced or bribed them.
They're small to medium size business owners, lawyers, architects etc. and they're rich in the sense of owning high-value property, being able to afford an upper-middle class lifestyle and having significant amounts of money in the bank.
Of course, if you're talking about people owning medium to large size companies with personal wealth somewhere in the double-digit million range, the likelihood of them trying to influence politicians and in turn directly benefiting from their decisions rises.
Posted by: novakant | November 30, 2008 at 09:25 AM
Two words: Opium War.
Another two words: Barbary Pirates.
There has never been a minute in human history when politics, government, and law as a function of politics and government weren't at the root of economic success and failure. You don't have *ownership* without society, government, or in some cases the state.
Oh, hell, there are literally thousands of words. But you said it best.
aimai
Posted by: AIMAI | November 30, 2008 at 09:25 AM
Novakant,
We cross posted so I didn't see your post before I posted. Despite claims to the contrary very few members of the elite in this society make real money without some government aid or connections--I'd say your example of architects is a good one. I don't know about your architect friends but the architects I know who've made lots of money (real, folding money, as it were) were all very well connected politically. Zoning laws, labor laws, contractor issues, real estate deals all involve huge amounts of time and politics. Ever sat through a zoning board meeting? Any small to medium sized business owner is highly entangled with politics, at least at the local level. Garbage disposal, workman's comp, inspections? These all impact restaurant owners and they have to be pretty savvy politically to navigate those realms.
Any professional--doctor, dentist, lawyer etc... also probably belongs almost perforce to a professional lisensing organization which deals at a higher level with politics and politicians. The better business bureau is *entirely* an arm of the GOP as far as I can tell while the AMA was organized specifically around fighting off socialistic national health.
The myth of the millionaire next door who just got rich by virtuously working hard, saving their pennies, and just happening to have had access to the GI Bill (their house), or SS (big government spending), or free higher education and scholarship etc... is a myth.
aimai
Posted by: AIMAI | November 30, 2008 at 09:37 AM
novakant: if Krauthammer had restricted himself to the last century or two, in W. Europe and N. America, my response would have been more nuanced. But he was the one who dragged in the Venetian Republic, which was founded, iirc, in the 8th century or thereabouts. That means he's working on a larger time scale, within which the last century or two look pretty unrepresentative.
Posted by: hilzoy | November 30, 2008 at 10:45 AM
In the idealized world postulated by Mr.Cabbagesmasher entrepreneurs and businessbeings would not have to be politically connected because the state would be automatically pro-business, removing all obstacles*. The potential money accumulators under these conditions could safely limit themselves to reading their balance sheets.
*Like opening markets at gunpoint or wiping out foreign business rivals (like Venice did with Byzantium)
Posted by: Hartmut | November 30, 2008 at 11:24 AM
I resent that notion, amai.
The people I am talking about have neither broken nor undermined the law, they haven't had undue influence on government decisions and they haven't engaged in questionable business practices.
Of course, depending on the nature of their business, some of them have had to deal quite a bit with government regulations and have been active in professional organizations representing their interests, but that in itself is not nefarious at all. Unions haggle with the government all the time and try to shape policy, as do all sorts of associations representing all sorts of people. Unless you think that unions/employees = necessarily good and business/employers = necessarily bad, I really don't see where the moral fault is in that.
Anyway, such activity took maybe 10% of their time and my point was that these were mainly private people who made their money acting lawfully and, yes, "virtuously working hard" within the boundaries of a framework for business activity set by society.
And you don't have to push those boundaries to become rich. Instead you can be a lawyer who gets a stake in the companies he represents, an architect who builds wonderful houses for a price or a businessman who founds and runs a company successfully for a several years, reaps the profits or eventually sells it to a competitor.
Of course, if you are the CEO of a defense contractor, the head of a major bank or an oil magnate, things will probably be a bit different, but that is exactly the differentiation I wanted to make.
Posted by: novakant | November 30, 2008 at 11:33 AM
But that's more of a difference of degree than of kind, isn't it? The larger the economic impact, the more the political impact; kinda unavoidable.
Not that there's a linear impact, though. Part of my job is to examine wealthy individual. I've seen a lot of wealthy people who are intimately involved in politics; a lot who aren't.
Posted by: gwangung | November 30, 2008 at 11:57 AM
d^d^d^dave,
Maybe we can apply a simple empirical test to Krauthammer's proposition. If what is now important in getting rich is political influence and it wasn't before, we might see the emergence of a new phenomenon, in which groups with common business interests deliberately target politicians in the hope of making financial gains. They might indeed frequently meet with politicians they hope to influence in some place convenient to said politicians, such as, for example, the entrances to legislatures. When we confirm that such groups (for the sake of succinctness let's call such groups lobby groups, after where they congregate) are a new phenomenon of the twenty-first century, then we can conclude that Krauthammer's thesis has some merit. Otherwise, empirically, we have to say his argument is full of s***.
Posted by: magistra | November 30, 2008 at 12:54 PM
"In the spring of 2007 a tiny military contractor with a slender track record went shopping for a precious Beltway commodity . . . Access like this does not come cheap, but it was an opportunity potentially worth billions in sales, and Defense Solutions soon found its man. The company signed Barry R. McCaffrey, a retired four-star Army general and military analyst for NBC News, to a consulting contract starting June 15, 2007.
Four days later the general swung into action. He sent a personal note and 15-page briefing packet to David H. Petraeus, the commanding general in Iraq, strongly recommending Defense Solutions and its offer to supply Iraq with 5,000 armored vehicles from Eastern Europe. “No other proposal is quicker, less costly, or more certain to succeed,” he said."
Posted by: Dan S. | November 30, 2008 at 02:48 PM
Hilzoy,
I don't think this is like what undergraduates do at all, in this sense: sure, in both cases there's a flippant disregard for the truth, but while an undergraduate is probably just being careless about something he or she isn't much invested in, Krauthammer is being careless about something that's become a part of conservative mythology, Namely, that markets were always free, open, and laissez-faire, because free markets are the *natural state of things*, until the 20th century with its new-fangled Marxist and Keynesian ideas started tampering with them.
A whole *book* -- hell, a whole academic industry of books -- could be written about this. There are SO MANY ways in which conservatives use historical exemplars and take the upper hand in arguments, positioning themselves as experts, by appealing to a chronicle that's more fable than history.
It's in their economic history with this assumption that open markets are the unimpeded state of things. It's in their political history when they imagine democracy is the natural state of things, the very next form of organization after anarchy and riots. It's in their military history with the constant pigeonholing of every single conflict into either WWII or the Cold War. It's in their American history when they fantasize about some English-only time in the country's past. Or maybe when they forget that the pledge of allegiance wasn't written by the founding fathers.
If we started an Obsidian Wings wiki, it would be good fun to compile a list.
Posted by: ara | November 30, 2008 at 03:15 PM
Novakant,
I didn't say, and certainly never implied, that a person who is politically connected or works through the political system to get things done and profits from it is committing some kind of crime or breaking a law. That is a complete and somewhat childish misreading of what I wrote and of the issue.
The issue under discussion is whether there are "ordinary" "virtuous" "non political" ways of making good money in our modern capitalist system that are opposed in kind from "evil" "based on connections" or "based on government handouts" ways of making money. My answer would be, well, no. Never have been. Never will be. All societies that have any kind of private or communal property or labor rest on a cultural construct of property or labor that is either enforced or unenforced by law. You don't even have *work* and its rewards without a legal system that recognizes your entitlement to ownership of your own labor. This is obviously true in slave states and within the family with unpaid female labor. But its equally true of all societies at all times. The government and the law have to recognize and defend your work and its earnings for you to enjoy it. There is no state of nature where the virtuous work and enjoy their earnings without the state.
This entire country was founded on communal, corporate, and later government action--the taking of land from the native americans? the founding of towns? the instituting of laws guaranteeing private or public property? civil courts? regulation of worker's issues? slavery? the Indian wars? the Louisiana Purchase? the homesteading acts? the system of irrigation and land management in the west? These are all examples of the central role that government has played, and will always play, in creating and regulating the economic realm that individual architects, doctors, home owners, workers simply play in at the lowest level. The very professional designations doctor and lawyer as well as architecht are themselves forms of regulation (sometimes self regulation, sometimes imposed from outside the profession) that enable some practitioners to edge others out, to hold a monopoly that makes their services more costly to the consumer. All people who opt into those professional groups, to the extent that they rely on government enforcement of their monopoly, are relying on government connections and government power to increase their earnings or safeguard their monopoly.
Just because these things are rendered socially invisible in our modern education system and by republican habits of mind doesn't mean they aren't real, and really constitutive of the economy and society we see around us. As cleek pointed out in a recent thread over at Baloon juice the book Cadillac Desert pretty thoroughly debunks any claims that our sturdily independent western states have for being...well...sturdily independent of government handouts. Its just that one man's welfare queen is another man's western rancher.
aimai
Posted by: AIMAI | November 30, 2008 at 03:15 PM
If I can associate Krauthammer's leadin with papers written by ignorant freshmen then I won't have to address his main thesis at all.
OK, I read Krauthammer's piece. I'm with Dan S., here's his thesis:
we have gone from a market-driven economy to a politically driven economy
Yes, Charles K, quite right. The market is now responding to a large degree to actions in the political sphere.
Why would that be?
Here's russell's thesis:
The reason we're in that perhaps undesirable state is because the folks in the private capital markets blew those markets up.
So, somebody has to step in and make sure that whole show doesn't go belly up. The only actor with the resources to do that is uncle sam.
Regrettable? Perhaps. But the regrettable part is the "they blew it up" part, not "so the feds have stepped in to try to stop the bleeding".
If Krauthammer wants to preserve a purely market economy, he should be advocating structural reforms to keep the big boys from flushing everybody else's money down the toilet.
If all he has to contribute is "federal intervention is interfering with the market" then he can talk the hand.
OF COURSE federal intervention is interfering with the market. If it didn't, the market would sink like a rock and take the rest of us with it.
I understand his point. The problem is that his point has all the relevance of a member of the Flat Earth Society complaining that all globes are round.
Thanks -
Posted by: russell | November 30, 2008 at 04:49 PM
hilzoy, I don't agree with Krauthammer, of course the entirely free and just market is a myth and there has always been corruption, cronyism and arbitrary government intervention - but these are parasitic activities and they rely completely on the talent, skill and hard work of those who actually drive innovation and prosperity and without whom there wouldn't be anything to siphon off. I'm not a historian, but I would think that such honest people have always existed, and some of them got rich in the process. That's all I was trying to point out and I don't think we actually disagree all that much.
Amai, I have already mentioned that these people operate "within the boundaries of a framework for business activity set by society", and that is completely obvious, none of us start at zero or operate in a vacuum. So your little overblown lecture was completely unnecessary. As for "government handouts", none of the people I was talking about have ever received any, instead they paid a lot of taxes. And if I want an architect to build a house for me or a doctor to take out my appendix, I would find it rather reassuring if they were certified by the government and members of a professional association.
How all this is supposed to be unjust or makes these people guilty of corruption or cronyism by default is a mystery to me. Are you talking about some form of original sin?
Posted by: novakant | November 30, 2008 at 06:35 PM
If Krauthammer is correct (sidenote: my computer is underlining this phrase as if it needed correction, but afaict the grammar is Ok), then I suppose the next thing we should expect are hirelings hanging around the legislature hoping to get advanced knowledge of- or even influence- legislation. Of course these newfangled creatures won't be on the legislature floor, so they'll probably hang about in the hallways, cloakrooms, and perhaps even the lobbies, waiting to buttonhole the people's representatives.
But what shall we call these lobby-dwelling gadflies, once they inevitably arise?
Posted by: Carleton Wu | November 30, 2008 at 06:57 PM
Novakant is my hero on this thread.
and what's this label //somewhat childish// for?
They must always condescend. It is their first instinct. "You don't agree? You must be ignorant like a child."
Posted by: d'd'd'dave | November 30, 2008 at 08:42 PM
I'd like to respectfully submit that the distinction between the political and economic spheres that seems to be at the heart of Krauthammer's thesis is a false one.
The politics of a community always influences it's economy. It's economy always influences it's politics. And there's nothing about any of that that either requires, or rules out, corruption.
novakant is, of course, correct. Lots and lots of people become wealthy through their own insight and hard work.
aimai is, of course, correct. They do this in a context that is created by the political organization (formal and informal) of the community they live in.
The reason that political actors are playing a larger role in market dynamics right now is because the private actors screwed up, and that right royally, and the public sector has, correctly, stepped in to provide whatever assistance and oversight it can to keep the whole damned show from blowing up.
Krauthammer's objections are, to me, farcical, because they see that intervention as some kind of unwarranted and undesirable intrusion.
It *is* undesirable, because it *does* interfere with the markets, and it *is* costing all of us a hell of a lot of money.
Unfortunately, it is not only not unwarranted, it is necessary, if the greed and stupidity of folks in the financial sector are to be prevented from destroying the livelihoods of the rest of us.
They must always condescend. It is their first instinct.
Unlike you, frex.
Thanks -
Posted by: russell | November 30, 2008 at 10:36 PM
"If Krauthammer is correct (sidenote: my computer is underlining this phrase as if it needed correction, but afaict the grammar is Ok)"
That new AI module is working out better than you expected.
Ara at November 30, 2008 at 03:15 PM otherwise got it right.
"They must always condescend. It is their first instinct."
It's another instinct to perceive that They are after you.
Posted by: Gary Farber | December 03, 2008 at 12:06 AM
not after, farber.
they are arrayed before me
like lambs in the spring.
Posted by: d'd'd'docile dave | December 03, 2008 at 01:08 AM
You need to upgrade your grammar checker. The ones from the 18th century and earlier want you to use the subjunctive too much (as in "If Krauthammer be correct...").
Posted by: KCinDC | December 03, 2008 at 01:52 AM
IKIC, the new internet meme.
Posted by: now_what | December 03, 2008 at 02:57 AM