Outrage of the Day

by publius

Using the title "Celebrity Skin" to discuss the McCain ad, Michael Crowley offers a timid half-hearted compliment of Hole:

Terrible video [Hole's "Celebrity Skin"] but this album actually had its moments.

"Had its moments" -- please. Don't make out with Courtney on Saturday night and deny her on Sunday. Unlike the cowardly Crowley, I'm not afraid to say it -- Hole rocks. Live Through This is also very good, particularly the first half of the album.

Take it away Courtney -- we love you.

UPDATE: And this too. Melissa Auf der Maur on bass added value (which this video illustrates). Mess with me people and I'll do this all night. I've been having high school nostalgia anyway, so I'll move on to Siamese Dream if I have to. Then Dirt. And then there's just no telling...

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[Phil]

Live Through This and Celebrity Skin are BOTH great, with almost no clunkers on either one. The latter alone has the title track, "Boys On The Radio," "Reasons To Be Beautiful," "Malibu," "Awful" . . . the planet on which those five songs consist merely of "having some moments" must have terrific music.

[cleek]

Melissa Auf der Maur ?

Kim Deal.

[matttbastard]

Pssh. Aging fanboys.

Pathetic.

(Laura Ballance.)

[matttbastard]

Also, Kim Coletta and Bridget Cross (VA/DC in the hizzouse!).

And representing from across the pond:

Miki Berenyi and Emma Anderson.

[MeDrewNotYou]

When it comes to female rockers, its all about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RAQXg0IdfI>Joan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3T_xeoGES8&feature=related>Jett.

[Eric Martin]

Live Through This did rock. No doubt.

[matttbastard]

Last two before bed:

Stereolab (RIP Mary Hansen) and Velocity Girl (*sigh* Sarah Shannon = teh swoon. Ok, Archie Moore was a cutie, too.)

Bonus: some bedtime acid on a now-for-something-completely-different-remix-tip (TUNE!).

Night y'all.

[Feddie]

I like Hole too fwiw.

[matttbastard]

Ok, I lied. One more (keeping with the original theme): nuff respect the one DJ Rap.

Proper tune from a hardcore/jungle legend.

[LT Nixon]

Publius, I must take issue with you flamboyantly posting videos from our generation's Yoko Ono. For some rockin' female awesomeness, I humbly suggest you click here.

[Rottin' in Denmark]

Wow, forget Hussein. What if Obama's name included 'Auf Der Mar'?

[matttbastard]

Fun fact time: Melissa Auf der Maur's father, Nick, was a fairly well-known Montreal-based journalist and politician who hob-nobbed with the likes of Conrad Black and Mordecai Richler (and, while working for the CBC, was arrested during the October Crisis).

wikipedia:

As a journalist he wrote regular columns for the Montreal Gazette and the now-defunct Montreal Star. A frequent subject was his daughter Melissa Auf der Maur, about whom he often wrote in his newspaper columns as she was growing up. She once observed that she had been known her whole life as Nick Auf der Maur's daughter, until she became the bassist for Hole, whereupon he became known as Melissa Auf der Maur's father.

I used to own a cassette by AdM's old indie band, Tinker. I'm sure it's worth money now (much like my also-long-lost copy of an indie cassette by Feist's old teen-punk band, Placebo [no, not that one--the one from Calgary]).

Bonus: recent Can-con feat. Auf der Maur.

K, bed for realz this time.

Really.

:-P

[Gary Farber]

"K, bed for realz this time."

I keep saying that, but the insommnia, she is bad.

[KathyF]

I heard on the radio the other day that Siamese Dream was 15 years old. Boy did I feel old. Even my two cherubs from that time have left home for college now.

[Pinko Punko]

"Awful" is almost perfect, and "Malibu" is a stunner.

[Slartibartfast]

Yikes. I'm more of a fan of rockers that can actually sing, like Pat Benatar and Ann Wilson. This is one of my favorite ohmigawd-what-pipes pieces. Not really rocking, but I'm a sucker for mandolin, and two of them together is more than I can resist.

Not that a little shrieking (well, more like bellowing, in this case) isn't fun, from time to time.

[JerryN]

Kids today. Nobody remembers Suzi Quattro or Genya Ravan anymore.

[cleek]

Tina Weymouth!

(Belew!)

[Platosearwax]

Hole was pretty good there for a bit, if you ignored the rest from Courtney.

To me, the end-all-be-all of 90's rock women is Elastica.

[russell]

Feh.

Give me PJ or give me death.

Victory, b*tches!!!

That is all.

Thanks -

[Slartibartfast]

Wow. I like Pj. New one on me.

Somehow her voice reminded me of this; dunno why.

[cw]

Pj was also new to me; she's good. Thanks Russell for the link.

[publius]

PJ is indeed great.

But you guys are totally ignoring Kathleen Hanna.

[cleek]

Throwing Muses + Belly + Breeders ?

a.k.a. the many bands of Tanya Donnelly (and her stepsister Kristen Hirsh) ?

[Gary Farber]

Gee, in one of my highly rare intersections with relatively contemporary music -- as it was at the time -- I saw Throwing Muses live in some not very large NYC venue, at some point back circa maybe 1996-7, thanks to one of my few music industry pals.

I mention this only because it's my only entre into this thread, and one of my extremely few opportunties to say a word about the music you kids talk about. Gotta bunch of Throwing Muses mp3s a long while ago, too.

[Hogan]

Pacific Northwest represent!

[matttbastard]

Throwing Muses + Belly + Breeders ?

Don't forget 50 Foot Wave (Hirsh's current project) and solo Hirsh & Donnelly (Love Songs for Underdogs was inexplicably and woefully ignored by both critics and the general public).

[cleek]

and, of course... Liz Phair

her shift to wanna-be pop diva is the outrage of the century. well, maybe not the outrage of the century... but one of them.

[matttbastard]

I suppose I shouldn't be shocked that there are people who have never heard of Polly Jean Harvey before.

However, I am shocked that no one has mentioned Patti Smith, or the Slits, or Polly Styrene (without whom there'd be no Kathleen Hanna).

[matttbastard]

Penelope Houston, Exene Cervenka, and Eve Libertine.

[matttbastard]

Vi Subversa, Lydia Lunch and Gaye Advert.

(Thought I'd take things back a few decades so Gary doesn't feel so left out. ;-))

[Phil]

(Love Songs for Underdogs was inexplicably and woefully ignored by both critics and the general public).

AS it happens I just had "Land Speed Record" pop up on my iPod last night on the way home from work. Also "Shark" from Throwing Muses' Limbo.

[cleek]

solo Hirsh & Donnelly

yeah. luv em both.

[hairshirthedonist]

Speaking of the twins on the cover of Siamese Dream, they had the baby from the Nevermind cover on NPR the other day - an all grown-up surfer(ish?) Cali dude. I'M GOING TO BE EFFIN' FORTY THIS YEAR!!! HOW THE FNCK DID THIS HAPPEN TO ME???

[Gary Farber]

Patti Smith, on the other hand, I have a lot to say about.

[Gary Farber]

"I'M GOING TO BE EFFIN' FORTY THIS YEAR!!! HOW THE FNCK DID THIS HAPPEN TO ME???"

Weird, innit? I turned into a grown-up somewhere along the line? How did that happen? I coulda sworn I was still 17, or 22, or 26, mostly, it seemed like.

Now I'm full of this "taking responsibility" stuff, and I clean, and I'm all emotionally mature like, and I shake my cane at you kids, hey, get offa my lawn!

And I keep using lines my parents used. And having the urge to talk about back when I was a kid and you wouldn't know this.

Also, I'm all old and tired so much. And my body keeps falling apart.

Still got all the sensawonda, though.

[hairshirthedonist]

Patti Smith, on the other hand, I have a lot to say about.

Having read the post at your second link, Gary, I now know how utterly dull, comparitively, my life was at 16 to yours. It makes me think, "Gee, what a gutless, unimaginative, doltish, immature, little boy of a 16-year-old I was."

[Gary Farber]

"Having read the post at your second link, Gary, I now know how utterly dull, comparitively, my life was at 16 to yours."

I was always a precocious kid.

Hell, I should tell you about how I wound up running four departments at Lunacon (the NYC science fiction convention) that year, including Facilities, creating a Fan History Display, a fannish programming thread, moderating several panels, though it was the next year that we caught Rex Weiner of Pie-Kill International, I had to deal with the pepper gas bombing, and... it was a busy couple of years. Though '77-78 even more so.

But I made up for it by crashing and burning later on. Also the whole college drop-out thing. And the screwed-up life. I probably peaked at 19. So the cosmic balance is preserved.

[Jeff]

Garbage! It's all http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RzqueC8A-as>garbage! (Shirley Manson rulz! And http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=m6o7N2yQV3M>here, she talks about Courtney.)

Much love for Ann & Nancy Wilson, Joan Jett and Suzi ("Leather Tuscadero", but so much more) Quatro.

We all love Annie Lennox, and, on the folkie side, Joan Baez, right? RIGHT?

[hairshirthedonist]

On the more metallic side there's Karyn Crisis. She's out of the music biz these days, AFAIK.

[hairshirthedonist]

On the more metallic side there's Karyn Crisis. She's out of the music business these days, AFAIK.

[hairshirthedonist]

Karyn Crisis.

[Gary Farber]

I'm only happy when it rains. Look, here comes the rain again.

[hairshirthedonist]

The spam filter won't let me link to google results for "Karyn Crisis," so google it yourself if you're interested in reading up on the unsung Queen of Extreme Metal.

[russell]

Big fun.

More PJ for y'all.

She's a woman of parts. The stuff she's doing now is nothing like any of this.

Hey, Kim Gordon

Anybody digging Cat Power?

Patti brings it all back home. Crappy sound, but the woman's a shaman. She cuts through it all.

Thanks -

[Cliffy]

her shift to wanna-be pop diva is the outrage of the century. well, maybe not the outrage of the century... but one of them.

I read an interview with Phair in which she said that if she'd put out a more typical album and it sold as expected instead of the more commercial "Liz Phair," she'd have lost her house. So blame America for not buying enough of her albums, but don't blame her for wanting to keep her kid fed.