by Eric Martin
Patrick Cockburn's story has apparently caught the attention of some senior Bush administration officials:
The United States is not seeking permanent military bases in Iraq as it negotiates legal and military agreements with the Iraqi government, U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan C. Crocker said here today.
Speaking at the State Department, Crocker called published reports that the United States is trying to set up permanent bases "flatly untrue."
"There clearly is going to be a need" for a U.S. and coalition military presence in Iraq beyond the end of the year, Crocker said. But the status of forces agreement, when adopted, "is not going to be forever, particularly as it related to the status and authority of coalition forces in Iraq," he said.
"So I'm very comfortable saying to you - to the Iraqis, to anyone who asks - that no, indeed, we are not seeking permanent bases, either explicitly or implicitly, by just intending to stay there indefinitely," he said.
The problem with Crocker's emphatic assurances is that it remains unclear whether there is a mechanism in the draft agreements that limits the duration of the US presence. For example, according to Al Hayat (via Badger), some Iraqi lawmakers are looking to model the US/Iraq arrangement on the one the US has with Turkey.
The Iraqi side posed a number of demands, including "disussions with the Iraqi government as a sovereign government, and the denial of any privileges to the American side without the agreement of the Iraqi government; the establishment of temporary American bases, whose existence would be reviewed each year, as is the case with the American bases in Turkey; the denial of movement of the Americans outside of their temporary bases without the knowledge and agreement of the Iraqi government; that financing in- and outflows for the American forces be subject to the Iraqi Central Bank; and that the American forces conduct no military operations without the written authorization of the Iraqi government". [emphasis added]
It's easy for Crocker and Bush administration officials to claim that we're not seeking "permanent" bases. The word suggests an infinite timeline that even a staunch imperialist could disavow in good faith. The question is, how contingent a presence? How limited a duration? To what extent will our presence be subject to periodic review by the Iraqi government?
The answers to those questions are far more important than the semantic two step surrounding the word "permanent."
Is there some (non-US-political) reason this has to be done right now? Is something (non-US-political) expiring?
Posted by: Ugh | June 05, 2008 at 06:45 PM
Ugh, I have no idea why the administration's deadline is the end of July, but the UN figleaf for the occupation expires at the end of 2008.
A semi-legitimate need for something to create a "legal" bridge (our whole presence there being illegal and illegitimate to me) would seem to call for an agreement that would last at most four or five months into the new administration.
But this goes way beyond that, in both the scope of what Iraqis are supposed to agree to, and in time.
Posted by: Nell | June 05, 2008 at 07:19 PM
Not permanent. Just long lasting. Say fifty years.
Maybe a hundred.
Posted by: Stephen Frug | June 05, 2008 at 08:24 PM
I have long suspected that one of the Bush Administration's motive for going to war in Iraq was the establishment of military bases there so as to permit the closure of American bases in Saudi Arabia. What amazes me is that George W. Doofus has caught very little political flack for acceding to Osama bin Laden's principal demand.
Posted by: John in Nashville | June 05, 2008 at 09:28 PM
Not forever. Just as long as it takes for all the well-maintained concrete we've poured to wear out.
What amazes me is that George W. Doofus has caught very little political flack for acceding to Osama bin Laden's principal demand.
That one's a stumper alright.
Posted by: Model 62 | June 05, 2008 at 09:45 PM
Ugh: The UN mandate (which authorizes the Multi-National Force and which has been extended several times already) expires at the end of 2008. Maliki has asked that it not be extended again.
Posted by: Model 62 | June 05, 2008 at 09:54 PM
The problem with Crocker's emphatic assurances is that it remains unclear whether there is a mechanism in the draft agreements that limits the duration of the US presence.
The analog to the MBA cliche 'nothing succeeds like success' is 'nothing succeeds like lying'. Flat out lying is danmed effective. It's googlifying.
What amazes me is that George W. Doofus has caught very little political flack for acceding to Osama bin Laden's principal demand.
You know, there's a reason these scoundrels in the WH/Congress played the patriotism card so readily, and so crudely. Not everyone enabling this mess is an actual sociopath, so there has to be some sort of rhetorical compensation for what is patently a world-historical blunder. I mean, who exactly is the fuck up here? Who is failing? who's the 'traitor'? Bin Laden made George Bush. Absent 9/11, it's pretty likely W would be a marginal one-termer. I think he knows that, 'cause he's a marketing guy. When they zig, you zag! If they think you're going to do one thing, do the opposite! Zip zam! Wear nice suits!
John in Nashville asks a very good question. Why is it not a big deal that George Bush enables bin Laden, does everything OBL could hope he would do? Does it matter if W is sincere in his beliefs? What does 'sincere' mean in this context?
Posted by: jonnybutter | June 05, 2008 at 11:56 PM
Hey, Eric, a blast from the past you've probably already seen (Michael Ledeen division).
Posted by: Tom Scudder | June 06, 2008 at 12:40 AM
Sure Eric, but the 'semantic two step' about that word carries all the political heft, and the ancillary questions are just that...ancillary.
Posted by: bobbyp | June 06, 2008 at 01:08 AM
Nell/Model 62 - Thanks. Can Russia/China veto any extension?
Posted by: Ugh | June 06, 2008 at 09:14 AM
Thanks Tom. Hadn't seen this latest iteration - but, yeah, these allegations have been swirling for a while.
Posted by: Eric Martin | June 06, 2008 at 10:04 AM
Ugh: It's a Security Council decision, so one would assume Russia or China or any other SC veto-rights holding UNSC member could veto the extension.
But why would they?
Posted by: Model 62 | June 06, 2008 at 10:43 AM
How is it that Ambassador Crocker can so "comfortably" say that we plan no permanent U.S. bases in Iraq? You probably thought all the nudging and winking was focused on that word permanent. No, according to today's Patrick Cockburn story, it's the U.S. part that they're crossing their fingers about:
Posted by: Nell | June 06, 2008 at 11:11 AM
"I have long suspected that one of the Bush Administration's motive for going to war in Iraq was the establishment of military bases there so as to permit the closure of American bases in Saudi Arabia."
Many have also long suspected that water is wet; film at 11.
Look back. If you pay attention, you might notice. Goodbye, Prince Sultan.
Posted by: Gary Farber | June 06, 2008 at 11:21 AM
The most likely answer to the question of "why right now" for the Bush administration is what it so often is: politics. An agreement with the Maliki government can be hailed as the Victory the Republicans have been promising; and John McCain will just bring you a hundred more years of that Victory.
It would, in one sense, be the first truth to the 'mission accomplished' boast, since bases (in proper Bush/Cheney-speak: enduring bases) were the fundamental objective of the invasion and occupation, to replace the ones we quietly closed in Saudi Arabia in May 2003.
And how did we get that base in Arabia to begin with? By showing the Saudi royals faked satellite pictures supposedly of Iraqi troops massed on their border in December 1990, on the eve of the Gulf War, and thereby getting agreement for U.S. forces to enter. The Gulf War followed (with no sign of Iraqi troops near Saudi territory), and -- surprise! -- the U.S. troops never left. We built bases.
Bin Laden seethed.
More cost-benefit analysis for those of you inclined to that line of argument.
Posted by: Nell | June 06, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Gary, your links would be better received without such large dollops of insulting condescension.
Posted by: Nell | June 06, 2008 at 11:23 AM
"Nell/Model 62 - Thanks. Can Russia/China veto any extension?"
It's not a relevant question, since there can't be an extension other than at the request of the Iraqi government and: "But Iraq's government has requested that the United Nations not renew the mandate again, forcing negotiations on a detailed legal framework for the U.S. presence in the country."
But if that changed, as I understand it (I could be wrong), the previous SC resolution remained in force, so there was no further veto possible; if, however, it was deemed necessary to get a new Security Council Resolution for some reason, then obviously any of the veto powers could veto. But that seems more or less close to impossible in likelihood of happening, so I wouldn't bother considering the possibility further. There political viability of trying to argue for a new mandate from the SC just wouldn't be there, even if somehow it was deemed necessary, and somehow the Iraqi government reversed itself. None of these things will happen.
Posted by: Gary Farber | June 06, 2008 at 11:29 AM
Model 62: But why would they?
Yeah, it occurred to me after I asked that they might like to have the U.S. continue to grind itself to dust in Iraq for the foreseeable future.
China likely less so given their holdings of U.S. treasuries, but I wonder if their waiting for the day when they can afford to just dump them en masse in the credit markets and plunge the U.S. even further into recession.
It cost me $72 today for 17 gallons of case.
Posted by: Ugh | June 06, 2008 at 11:29 AM
"insulting condescension."
Food for thought. You're welcome.
Morning post, by the way.
And speaking of energy needs. Anyone got $45 trillion in loose change?
Posted by: Gary Farber | June 06, 2008 at 11:32 AM
case => gas.
Posted by: Ugh | June 06, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Morning post, by the way.
That was a great post Gary, I would have said so over there but couldn't find my log-in (or maybe I don't have one).
Posted by: Ugh | June 06, 2008 at 11:37 AM
Not helping the US get free of its tar baby may be one motivation for allowing the mandate to continue, but I think the key reason is that UNSC members understand that someone needs to provide security in Iraq.
Posted by: Model 62 | June 06, 2008 at 01:40 PM
UNSC members understand that someone needs to provide security in Iraq.
So let's say that the Maliki government holds out and doesn't reach an agreement by the end of July, or by November 4, for that matter. President-elect Obama could communicate that if Maliki's government wanted to apply for a very limited extension of the mandate, that the U.S. government would ditch the Bush plan and push forward with a timed withdrawal (as promised to the U.S. voters).
Depending on what happens in the provincial elections in Iraq, if they happen, that might put Maliki and Hakim in the position of having to pretend they support U.S. withdrawal... (in that the main security being provided by U.S. forces is the continuation in power of the parties currently ruling).
Posted by: Nell | June 06, 2008 at 02:24 PM
"President-elect Obama could communicate that if Maliki's government wanted to apply for a very limited extension of the mandate, that the U.S. government would ditch the Bush plan and push forward with a timed withdrawal (as promised to the U.S. voters)."
This is a very problematic idea.
Regardless of the politics of the day, and who is president, there's only one President of the United States at a time. Whatever we think of him or her, someone has to be in charge.
To set a precedent (or, if you prefer, to go along with the precedent of Nixon's sending messages to the Vietnamese in 1968, or the allegations that the income Reagan administration communicated with the Iranian government in 1980) of the president-elect actively negotiating with a foreign government in any way, prior to taking office, is a very dangerous precedent to legitimize.
If President Obama loses in 2012 or 2016, and a Republican is taking office, do we want President Obama to be undercut from July, or from the second week of November, through to the inauguration of the next President, in all remaining foreign policy decisions and activities?
Regardless of the importance of any given issue of the day, we have to take the long view of these things, and what they portend for the future, and I'm strongly wary of legitimizing this kind of suggested undercutting of the authority of the President, no matter how insanely awful he or she might be.
I wouldn't say it should never be done, and this might be a case where it's advisable, but I'd want to see it thoroughly argued, and be well and truly convinced of that, before lending my own approval, personally.
Back in reality, I suspect that Obama's foreign policy team wouldn't take a terribly different view of this than I do, though I certainly could be entirely wrong.
Posted by: Gary Farber | June 07, 2008 at 09:45 AM
Fair points, Gary.
To me, there's a big difference between having such communications post-election and pre- (what Nixon in 1968 and Reagan in 1980 did).
There's also the specific current context. Of course, in principle, one wants to avoid this kind of undercutting and potential confusion. But in this case, the outgoing president has been trying to pull off something blatantly illegal to begin with (put into effect a long-term treaty without Senate approval), using the excuse of the fact that a legal framework is needed to bridge his administration with the next.
For the incoming president to encourage the Iraqi government to propose something minimal that would legalize the situation until actual negotiations could begin doesn't seem to me to be crossing that line in a big way.
Posted by: Nell | June 07, 2008 at 10:09 AM
do we want President Obama to be undercut from July, or from the second week of November, through to the inauguration of the next President, in all remaining foreign policy decisions and activities?
July to November the case is clear: the President is in charge and no one else. Obama can make his intentions known from the stump.
Post-election to Inauguration Day is less clear. At the least, one would expect the outgoing policy teams to begin including the incoming policy teams in their discussions to allow for a smooth transition. One might also expect that high level contacts between the incoming foreign policy team and similar officials from around the world* would also be made at this time, for the same reason.
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*Foreign leaders will call the winner to congratulate him on his victory. Some advance work must be involved here. Phone numbers don't get into rolodexes on their own.
Posted by: Model 62 | June 07, 2008 at 11:16 AM
"To me, there's a big difference between having such communications post-election and pre- (what Nixon in 1968 and Reagan in 1980 did)."
There is. But there's also an even huger difference between being President, and President-elect.
Right up until the moment the President-elect takes the oath of office, the President-elect has no legal or official power *whatever*.
"President-elect" isn't a legal post. If G. W. Bush drops dead of a heart attack the day before Inauguration Day, 2009, Dick Cheney, god help us, becomes President for a day, and has all the legal authority of the President of the U.S., at least technically.
If, say, that happened a week before Inauguration Day, and, hypothetically, some enemy launched a nuclear missile attack on the U.S., the person making the decisions for that week would be President Cheney; not President-elect Obama.
One would hope Cheney would consult, but he'd have no legal obligation to do so whatever. Not until the legal moment of swearing in. (Technically, I believe the swearing could be advanced to five seconds after midnight.)
So the same arguments and problems still apply, even though, yes, there certainly is a distinction between a maybe President-elect, and an actual President-elect. We still have, and can have, only one President at a time.
(Or as LBJ liked to say, "I'm the only President you've got.")
Posted by: Gary Farber | June 07, 2008 at 01:33 PM
"At the least, one would expect the outgoing policy teams to begin including the incoming policy teams in their discussions to allow for a smooth transition."
One would certainly expect it, and the new administration would be in great confusion if this weren't done.
But there's no legal obligation for the old administration to do it.
Transitions, as you may be aware, have not always been smooth. Hell, Eisenhower refused to speak to Truman on his Inauguration Day:
Here endth the lesson.Posted by: Gary Farber | June 07, 2008 at 01:39 PM
I wasn't suggesting that any indications Obama might give the Iraqi government after his election but before taking office would be legally binding. I'd assume these communications would be discreet and back-channel, and deniable.
But if Maliki should propose a four-month extension of the UN mandate in early December, let Bush huff and puff about legalities. It'll be funny.
Posted by: Nell | June 07, 2008 at 04:46 PM
I'd also expect this transition to be almost the least cooperative ever. Though the frostiness level of Truman-to-Eisenhower is a high bar...
Posted by: Nell | June 07, 2008 at 04:47 PM
Model 62 and I both left out a highly relevant bit of context on the U.N. mandate, which was covered a few months ago by Jonathan Schwarz of A Tiny Revolution. On June 4, 2007, the Iraqi legislature passed a resolution introduced by the Sadrist current:
In the Council of Foreign Relations discussion of the "agreement" that Model 62 linked, I'm struck by this phrasing (my emphasis):
"Forced", that is, if a prolonged U.S. presence in the country is taken as a given. At this point, seeing what the Bush administration is pushing, I'd think another unilateral request to the U.N. for a six-month extension would look pretty good by comparison. Especially so if the results of the U.S. elections seem to put in place a pro-withdrawal president and Congressional majority.
The Iraqi provincial elections planned for October may end up being pushed back until after the U.S. elections, as well.
Public discussion of a possible "security agreement" between the U.S. and Iraqi governments was what drove the Fadhila and Sadrist parties out of the Maliki government in March-April 2007 and led to the parliamentary action in June.
The rejection of the Bush proposal is, sadly, not as sweepingly negative in all quarters as it's been portrayed in the limited reporting it's gotten here. Nationalist parties outside the Maliki government take the strong form of opposition:
But the Maliki-Supreme Council response has been to propose
And Ayatollah Sistani's response is not as stringent as it has been reported by English-language journalists:
We're about to elect a president who is not committed to the complete withdrawal of U.S. forces and contractors, but, like the candidate he narrowly defeated for the nomination, favors a "residual force".
Without a massive independent movement to end the occupation completely, the U.S. is going to be in Iraq forever.
Posted by: Nell | June 08, 2008 at 08:49 AM
Without a massive independent movement to end the occupation completely, the U.S. is going to be in Iraq forever.
Tar babies are sticky.
Posted by: Model 62 | June 08, 2008 at 11:11 AM
And we're in dire need of a way to get Br'er Fox al-Hakim and company to throw us in the briar patch.
Posted by: Nell | June 09, 2008 at 03:59 PM