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April 05, 2008


is it the Obama campaign demanding this, or a coalition that happens to support Obama?

yep - fixed. thanks

"Mark Penn: The Dick Morris of the New Millennium"

Hey, now. An academic that plays a peripheral role in the Obama campaign wrote a paper few people will read that disagrees with the candidate on Iraq policy. Surely we can all agree that that is much worse than your chief strategist having a meeting, that hopefully *no* one will hear of, with a foreign government to push a policy that the candidate disagrees with. I mean, the academic probably already has tenure; Mark Penn has a family to feed on the near minimum wages that high-powered lobbying generate.

This was the moment I started thinking of him as Slimeball. (ObWi is half-way down the first Google page for “Mark Penn cocaine)”.

I don’t think of it as a loss for her campaign but a gain for the Democratic Party, and I think we should all take that view. Obama can survive his loss, and in fact as the Democratic candidate can only benefit in the Fall from Penn’s departure now.
Good-bye Toxic Penn, Hello Democratic Party and welcome back from the brink. We was worried.

The Columbian's (who like the Obamaites) can't take a joke have already fired Penn:

The Colombian government severed ties with Clinton strategist Mark Penn and his public relations firm Saturday, unhappy Penn referred to a recent meeting with the Colombian ambassador as an "error in judgment."

Roy Neel was a competent strategist, but after Trippi let Dean get past the point of no return it didn't make a difference. Penn has already porked the pooch in this case. Getting a patch kit to the Titanic crew in 1985 wouldn't have done them too much good, either.

She could get the hybrid offspring of Lee Atwater and Machiavelli to run her campaign now and the best she can hope for is to force a nomination from the floor. Whether it's in her yet or not, the fork is primed.

"It's vital for Obama that Penn remain in his current spot. If he's fired, the Clinton campaign might be forced to hire a competent strategist."

So true, and yet it's the funniest thing I've heard all day.

It's vital for Obama that Penn remain in his current spot. If he's fired, the Clinton campaign might be forced to hire a competent strategist.

Or somebody even worse. James Carville, anyone?

I dont understand Publius' comments about Mark Penn and Hillary Clinton. NO Senators can negotiate or approve of trade agreements. Unless, of course, the President asks a senator to act as his special delegate or legate. That authority belongs to the President (as defined by the Constitution). What Mrs. Clinton can do (along with the other 99 senators)is vote to either ratify or reject treaties made by the President and his subordinates. Sincerely, Sean M. Brooks.

Sean, Hillary is running for President.

Confusedly, Sebastian

not sure it is fixed, fixed. the underlining now looks like a cynical wink.


Too little, too late.
Penn is gonzo.

Hi, Sebastian. Yes, I'm aware that evil woman, Hillary Clinton is running for president. And I hope neither she or Obama makes it to the White House. Sincerely, Sean M. Brooks

It seems worth noting this: "His polling firm, Penn, Schoen and Berland Associates, will continue to provide polling and advice to the campaign, the statement said."

And then I point out that Dick Morris, for instance, was "only" the Clinton pollster.

The main pollster is the main controller of the flow of information about polling, and that's the font of modern political strategizing.

I suggest no one get too attached to the idea that Mark Penn will not continue to be a crucial and major strategic factor in the Clinton campaign, though I could, of course, be wrong.

And, sure, the demotion is significant, and it's quite reasonable to assume that his voice will be much less.

But this is also a lot of particularly well done sleight of hand, if you look a little closely, I also tend to think.

Or, in other words: I bring you this offering of good news, publius!

(You'll testify for me in Re Cleek, right?)

As Gary says, this isn't a firing. It is barely a demotion. It is a formal changing of the job title to make him seem less important.

So uninvolved.

Demoted Hillary Clinton strategist Mark Penn may no longer have the coveted title of chief strategist, but he remains a key member of the campaign's senior staff.

Mr. Penn took part on the campaign's morning message call this morning, as usual.

This afternoon, he is also scheduled to be on a call with Clinton and other aides to begin to prepare for Saturday's presidential debate in Philadelphia.

Mr. Penn "is still going to be very much involved," a senior campaign official said.

Indeed, it is not clear precisely what Mr. Penn's title-change entails, other than a public rebuke, although the official said that "there is a difference between being in charge and being one of many voices."


Meant to point this out yesterday.

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