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September 13, 2007

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It's bought Bush another six, maybe twelve months towards dumping the whole mess on his successor. That's progress as far as he's concerned.

It has had one good effect: speeding the process of clearing out al Qaeda in Iraq.

But Al Qaeda really is who we are fighting now.

I know it is awful, but the enemy is Al Qaeda.

Previously it the Baathists, plus AQI. I think Al Sadr has some kind of truce now, there was that Helsinki accord over labor day, Al Douri's out of the mix, the secular Sunni party is back in Parliament, etc.

Let's see how this works out over the next 6 months.

DaveC: if true, that's unfortunate, as they are not the only ones fighting us.

Off Topic

hilzoy, Do you know how MA Niazi (The Nation PK) is doing? I just found out that he had a stroke back in May. Were you in Lahore? What is the deal with the Mayo Clinic there?

They were right about the sheik signing his own death warrant by shaking hands with Bush.
He was killed yesterday by a bomb.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070913/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq>link

i heard on NPR a few days back that one of the reasons the Sunnis are fighting AQI now is that AQI had started cutting in on the Sunni's oil smuggling profits.


progress!

DaveC, please do not do what Bush does and equate AQI and AQ. They are not the same and have tenuous connections at best.

Getting rid of AQI, though important, will have absolutely no effect on AQ.

Let's see how this works out over the next 6 months.

Famous last words.

"Let's see how this works out over the next 6 months.

Famous last words."

If only they were. Far more likely is that they will repeated every 6 months.

Let's see how this works out over the next 6 months.

I guess that that's pretty much what we're stuck with as I doubt the collective readership of this blog, even if super motivated, could do anything to change it.

So, six more months of maiming, carnage, death and horror for the troops and Iraqis until we get another report from the good general saying "golly, we could use another six months..."

someday, this will be over.

i wonder how long after that until some chickenhawk eggheads get together and decide the US needs to do a little Regime Change™, for the good of the world - but this time we'll do it right, not like the Bush Wars of distant memory - ?

i thought i told that cat not to use the computer anymore...

I know it is awful, but the enemy is Al Qaeda.

If you really believed that, you'd be in favor of getting out of Iraq so that we can get back to fighting Al Qaeda. As pointed out above, AQI is not AQ, and the defeat of AQI will have no meaningful effect on the people who actually attacked us and who actually pose any kind of a threat to this country. To believe otherwise is to be so ignorant of the different factions in Iraq and the differences between AQI and AQ as to render one's opinion on the subject meaningless.

I know you're still trying to clap harder for Bush's war, but I would appreciate it if you'd take the time to think about the big picture once in while in between the clapping.

Cleek (or the cat), we'll be lucky if the chickenhawk eggheads wait until this is over before starting the next war. At this point I think the major decision they're working on is whether to attack just Iran or go for Iran and Syria at the same time.

"A couple of days ago, the estimable Eric Martin said that I gave too much credence to two ideas: first, that Sunnis are interested in "bottom-up reconciliation", and second, that even if they were, the Shi'a government would allow it. He was right: I didn't mean the post to come out quite that way, but it did."

Wouldn't allow it, you meant, yes?

"Let's see how this works out over the next 6 months.

Famous last words."

If only they were. Far more likely is that they will repeated every 6 months.

Every 6 months until the last time.

"Wouldn't allow it, you meant, yes?"

Whoops, hadn't had my coffee yet. "...gave too much credence to...."

Never mind.

i wonder how long after that until some chickenhawk eggheads get together and decide the US needs to do a little Regime Change™, for the good of the world

Probably 15-20 years. Long enough for the neo-con junior league -- folks like Trevino, Domenech, et al -- to work their way up through the think tank ranks and wrangle positions where they can make policy.

Don't worry, they're working on it right now.

Thanks -

It isn't the thinktanks that worry me - it's the career employees of the defense and intelligence agencies. Therein lies the resurgence of the neocons (really, warmongers) and the Republican party.

What reading I have done leads me to the conclusion that the CIA has been a cancerous repository of evil since it's very beginnings. If Truman doesn't get a black eye for allowing it to turn into the festering cesspool it is, while on HIS watch, then there is no justice and we can expect GWB to be lionized in the not too distant future.

Jake

But Jake, the Bushites have been telling us for years that the CIA is a bunch of patchouli-scented liberal peaceniks who just wanted to sing "Kumbaya" with Saddam Hussein and so undermined the rush to war at every turn.

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