by publius
Wash. Post, 6/10/07
U.S. military officials here are increasingly envisioning a "post-occupation" troop presence in Iraq that neither maintains current levels nor leads to a complete pullout, but aims for a smaller, longer-term force that would remain in the country for years.This goal, drawn from recent interviews with more than 20 U.S. military officers and other officials here, including senior commanders, strategists and analysts, remains in the early planning stages. It is based on officials' assessment that a sharp drawdown of troops is likely to begin by the middle of next year, with roughly two-thirds of the current force of 150,000 moving out by late 2008 or early 2009.
Hmm, "next year." That sounds familiar. Where have I heard that before? Ah, yes.
Wash. Post, 12/7/04
Army Gen. John P. Abizaid, the commander of U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf region, raised the possibility Monday that U.S. forces in Iraq could start to be reshaped as early as next year to reduce the number of combat troops and concentrate on the development of Iraqi security forces.
Orlando Sentinel, 10/11/04
Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said Sunday that the United States could begin to withdraw some troops from Iraq beginning early next year, if newly trained Iraqi security forces can shoulder more of the burden.
Newsday, 3/21/05
A top Army general estimated last week that U.S. troops could begin withdrawing from Iraq early next year, as Iraqis start taking over the Americans' functions. Gen. Richard Cody, Army vice chief of staff, told reporters that the success of the recent Iraqi elections, U.S. military victories against the insurgents and "the rapid growth of the Iraqi national guard and the Iraqi Army" would make that possible.
NYT, 4/11/05
Two years after the fall of Saddam Hussein, the American-led military campaign in Iraq is making enough progress in fighting insurgents and training Iraqi security forces to allow the Pentagon to plan for significant troop reductions by early next year, senior commanders and Pentagon officials say.
Boston Globe, 4/24/05
The top US commander in Iraq, Army General George W. Casey, predicted in late March that "very substantial reductions" in US troops could be made by early next year. Asked this month whether large troop reductions could be made by next year, the Army's top officer, General Peter Schoomaker, told an audience at the American Enterprise Institute that "there is an opportunity if things continue and if we continue to see the kind of great progress that's taking place."
Washington Post, 6/22/2005
The senior U.S. operational commander in Iraq said yesterday that he anticipates little change in U.S. troop levels before the next Iraqi elections, scheduled for December, but he reaffirmed that significant reductions could begin early next year. . . . But looking past the end of the year, the general struck a note of optimism, reaffirming Casey's prediction in March that increased numbers of Iraqi security forces should allow for a fairly significant reduction in U.S. troops by early next year. "I think General Casey's assumption probably is still valid," he said. "I suspect we will probably draw down capability after the elections, because Iraqi security forces are more capable."
Atlanta J-C, 7/28/2005
A "fairly substantial" withdrawal of American troops from Iraq could begin as early as next spring, depending on the country's political development and the readiness of Iraqi security forces, the top U.S. commander in Iraq said Wednesday. . . . Casey said U.S. troop reductions could begin soon after a new Iraqi government is established early next year after December elections.
NYT, 11/24/2005
The Pentagon is planning to make modest troop reductions after next month's elections in Iraq and, if security conditions improve, could begin reductions next summer that would drop the American force level below 100,000 by late next year, Defense Department officials said Wednesday.
Chicago Tribune, 11/30/2005
Administration officials have suggested recently that troop withdrawals could begin early next year if Iraqi forces prove capable of maintaining security on their own in certain parts of the country.
Washington Post, 12/24/2005
As anger over Iraq's disputed recent election boiled over in Baghdad's streets and mosques Friday, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld announced that the number of American combat troops in the country would be reduced by about 7,000 early next year.
And then Little Orphan Annie sang that the sun would come out tomorrow.
When you have no idea what your goal is, you cannot decide how you will accomplish it. If you don't know what success is, you'll never know if you have it. Next year, indeed.
Posted by: Free Lunch | June 10, 2007 at 01:48 PM
Our Friedman cup runneth over...
Posted by: Anarch | June 10, 2007 at 02:02 PM
If it feels good, say it.
(Actually, the top brass knows the military is stretched to the breaking point and has probably put Bush on notice that this can't go on...)
Posted by: obscure | June 10, 2007 at 02:04 PM
It's worth noting that the WaPo piece is by Thomas Ricks, their top, and most reliable, military reporter.
Other points worth noting include that this is hugely more elaborate than what Phil Carter and others have described; it bears all the earmarks of standard Pentagon Exaggeration-For-Effect:
The other key point is that this is what's described as what's left after the "pullout": But aside from these guys, we'll have left Iraq. The Iraqis will never notice we're still there!Posted by: Gary Farber | June 10, 2007 at 02:05 PM
When we left our troops in Germany after the occupation was officially ended, there was clear evidence that an independent German government wanted us there and that there was an external threat that we were protecting against. We were not there to defend the new German government.
When we left our troops in Korea after that war, we were not an occupying force and we did not protect the government of South Korea against internal problems.
No matter how you look at it, this is a continuing occupation, but we are hoping that we will be able to get more Iraqi collaborators. I wonder what Bush will do when Sadr manages to get a bill passed in the Iraqi parliament that requires the US to remove its troops.
Posted by: Free Lunch | June 10, 2007 at 02:19 PM
Posted by: matttbastard | June 10, 2007 at 02:39 PM
Maybe he'll see if the Iraqi parliamentarian is in the hospital for gallbladder surgery and try to get him to sign a paper putting Sadr on double secret probation?
Posted by: liberal japonicus | June 10, 2007 at 05:34 PM
He'll probably get Hillary and Barak on the phone, and ask them to reiterate their public statements on 'phased withdrawal' which looks a lot like the 'post-occupation troop presense' story quoted from the Washington Post.
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton foresees a "remaining military as well as political mission" in Iraq, and says that if elected president, she would keep a reduced military force there to fight Al Qaeda, deter Iranian aggression, protect the Kurds and possibly support the Iraqi military.
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Obama (on withdrawal): "The plan allows for a limited number of U.S. troops to remain in Iraq as basic force protection, to engage in counter-terrorism and to continue the training of Iraqi security forces. Link-3
Posted by: Jay Jerome | June 10, 2007 at 06:18 PM
One of my favorite musicals, favorite numbers: Sunset Boulevard, “This Time Next Year”.
(What are you people looking at? Yes, I like Broadway shows – in fact I love them. In fact, I bet I’ve seen more than you. So there.)
Posted by: OCSteve | June 10, 2007 at 09:42 PM
Yeah? I'll bet I envy you more than you envy more, so there!
Posted by: Anarch | June 10, 2007 at 09:44 PM
wow. I'm so incoherent with envy I can't even type right!
Posted by: Anarch | June 10, 2007 at 09:45 PM
I envy that though. Incoherence that is…
Posted by: OCSteve | June 10, 2007 at 09:55 PM
My personal bet is that by October we will be consolidating headquarters, transitioning combat forces to be more training teams, and removing National Guard and Reserve Forces.
So I told my wife to set a place for me at Thanksgiving.
Posted by: jrudkis | June 11, 2007 at 12:45 AM
What a coincidence. I hear the Cubs are planning on winning the World Series next year, too.
Posted by: DougL | June 11, 2007 at 01:56 AM
Actually, it wouldn't surprise me this time if this comes to fruition. Next year is an election year, the administration is getting a lot of pressure from Republicans to do something.
Of course, for the several thousand who remain, it won't be very pretty.
Posted by: john miller | June 11, 2007 at 09:17 AM
From your lips to God's ears, jrudkis.
Posted by: Steve | June 11, 2007 at 11:54 AM
"Of course, for the several thousand who remain, it won't be very pretty."
Posted by: john miller
More like 10's of thousands, given a division + logistical support + SOF + 'trainers'.
Given that the place is extremely dangerous to US forces now, and that very few Iraqi forces can be trusted, I just can't see a small force doing that much.
In addition, there's Bush's ego to consider. I predict that he'll keep the 'surge' going until he leaves office. That way, he can say that he was winning. He'll let the next president deal with a burned-out force and a lost war.
Posted by: Barry | June 11, 2007 at 09:02 PM
The estimate seems to be about 40000 enduring (never say "permanent"!) for the "Korea model".
Iirc the US were also quite successful in strangling SK democracy developments for a few decades, a parallel one should also not mention in presence of GOPsters.
Posted by: Hartmut | June 12, 2007 at 08:44 AM
What a billmony post! Three cheers for you! and make it whiskey please.
Posted by: french swede the rootless vegetable | June 12, 2007 at 11:35 AM