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December 21, 2006

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Your so-called realism is simply selfishness and you have the moral code of a mass murderer.

Of course it is selfishness, on a national scale. Nations act to protect their interests. Nations sometimes kill millions of people to protect those interests. This is unlikely to change. That is called realism.

Do you think the net result of the loss of US dominance in the Middle East would be fewer casualties than the current population of Iraq? It wouldn't. There would be a world war to see which powers would succeed the US in the region. Would you then consider yourself to have the morals of a mass murderer for failing to act to prevent those consequences?

If Iraq were not in a resource-rich region of the world, American troops would not be occupying it right now. Does anyone disagree with that statement? But when the truth is stated bluntly about US foreign policy, people act outraged. Then, when their leaders spin the reasons to emphasize the more politically correct ones, people act outraged that their leaders were not more ingenuous. It's ironic.

Eh, what's a moby?

Oh, it's one of these: Moby (via LGF's [!] informative FAQ).

Sebastian is insinuating that 1) this web site is primarily visited by President Bush's natural constituencies, and that 2) saying that Bush is not losing in Iraq, and claiming that instances of him putting a spin on the reasons we are in Iraq are justifiable, and suspecting that some liberals don't want the US to win Iraq are examples of being anti-Bush.

Needless to say, that doesn't correspond to my interpretation of reality. Perhaps the word moby does not mean what he thinks it means.

I'm open to various explanations of thetruth's motivations, but he doesn't seem to fit the definition of "moby" at all. He's not pretending to be someone on "our side", whatever that would be. He's not attacking any political figures by bringing up things (true or not) that their supporters on the site might disapprove of. Moby tactics would be something like the fake progressive group some Republicans set up to oppose Casey in Pennsylvania.

Are you using "moby" to mean "someone pretending to be a right-winger to cause trouble", Sebastian? In that case, I might believe he is, but I disapprove of the usage.

Of course it is selfishness, on a national scale. Nations act to protect their interests. Nations sometimes kill millions of people to protect those interests. This is unlikely to change. That is called realism.

Or nasty, short, and brutish.

Less truth(iness), more Moby.

(Bonus: another interpretation of reality).

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