by hilzoy
Over at Next Hurrah, emptywheel proposes pop quizzes for legislators. Some of emptywheel's sample questions:
"1. The terrorist group Al Qaeda is overwhelmingly made up of what kind of Muslims?a. Shiite
b. Sunni
c. Kurds
d. Nation of Islam2. The known nuclear proliferator, AQ Khan, comes from which country?
a. North Korea
b. Iran
c. Pakistan
d. Libya
e. Iraq3. Which of the following countries is known to have nuclear weapons?
a. Israel
b. Iraq
c. Iran
d. Libya4. Which of the following leaders was elected in an election deemed to be fair by outside observers?
a. King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia
b. King Abdullah of Jordan
c. Hugo Chavez of Venezuela
d. Ilham Aliyev of Azerbaijan"
There are more, though I think that if the aim is to ensure that lawmakers aren't completely clueless, some of them are probably too detailed. However, a few additions:
h1. which of the following have war powers under the Constitution?
a. The President
b. The Congress
c. The DC Circuit Court of Appeals
d. The President and the Congress
h2. Fill in the blank: According to the Constitution, the Congress is _______ to the Executive.
a. Subservient
b. Coequal
c. Inferior
d. Wait -- the answer is 'craven, cringing, and utterly dependent', so why is the next word 'to'?
h3. Fill in the blank: According to the Constitution, the role of the Executive is to:
a. Execute the laws passed by Congress
b. Make all the important decisions
c. Decide who will be on the Supreme Court
d. Throw the first pitch on opening day
h4. If the President disagrees with an existing law, the Constitution gives him the right to:
a. Ignore it
b. Override it
c. Ask a legislator to introduce legislation to change it, just like anyone else
d. Quarter troops in people's houses during peacetime
h5. According to the Constitution, who can the President decide to imprison without due process of law?
a. Anyone he wants -- he's the decider
b. Enemy combatants
c. Enemy combatants who are not US Citizens
d. No one
h6. To whom does the Constitution give some legal rights?
a. Troops quartered during peacetime
b. United States citizens
c. All persons
d. Campaign contributors
Anyone have any more suggestions?
At the risk of being asked to serve as next chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, has Israel formally acknowledged the existence of its nuclear weapons, or is that still an open secret?
Posted by: Andrew | December 10, 2006 at 09:10 PM
Before the President can appoint ambassadors, judges of the Supreme Court, or federal judges, the Senate must:
a, Cheer him on.
b, Advise
c, Advise and consent.
d, Provide a rubber stamp to make it official.
The President must:
a, Write law to suit himself.
b, Take care that the laws be faithfully executed.
c, Negotiate with Congress to rewrite laws.
d, Ignore the law in matters of national security.
Waterboarding, beating people to death, or placing someone in solitary confinement without charges for three years until their mind snaps is:
a, Necessary to prevent them from escaping justice.
b, The plotline for the next season of "24".
c, Cruel and unusual punishment.
d, Good clean fun.
Posted by: Phoenician in a time of Romans | December 10, 2006 at 09:12 PM
"Which of the following countries is known to have nuclear weapons?"
Trick question for various definitions of 'known'. :)
Posted by: Sebastian Holsclaw | December 10, 2006 at 09:45 PM
Fill the blank with the correct answer. There has never been a ...... detained as an enemy combatant in Guantanamo Bay:
(a) prisoner over the age of 70
(b) Catholic
(c) woman
(d) prisoner whom Osama Bin Laden has accused of assassinating him
(e) prisoner who has confessed to spying for the CIA and Mossad
Posted by: Katherine | December 10, 2006 at 09:45 PM
oops, (d) should be "attempting to assassinate him."
Posted by: Katherine | December 10, 2006 at 09:46 PM
h3 is ambiguous. Both a and d are correct. (d is covered under the little-known Doubleday Amendment)
Posted by: Bernard Yomtov | December 10, 2006 at 09:47 PM
The Iranian head of state, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, issued a fatwa against ____ in July 2005:
a) the US
b) the production, stockpiling, and use of nuclear weapons
c) the US's invasion of Iraq
d) al-Qaeda
e) President George W. Bush
Posted by: Jesurgislac | December 10, 2006 at 09:58 PM
Andrew: I had exactly the same objection.
To hilzoy et al.: there are some other great questions buried in the comments on that thread. Which is about the only time I've ever recommended reading through a dKos thread, now that I think about it.
Posted by: Anarch | December 10, 2006 at 10:08 PM
I had to look up the answer to Jes's...I think mine's easier, but just in case, the correct answer is (c).
Posted by: Katherine | December 10, 2006 at 10:16 PM
Anarch: is it a dKos thread too? I found it on Next Hurrah. Silly me.
Posted by: hilzoy | December 10, 2006 at 10:54 PM
It was originally a Next Hurrah thread but emptywheel ported it over to dKos here. There's a certain amount of sneering gliberalism in the thread, but I think many of the questions in there are really good.
Posted by: Anarch | December 10, 2006 at 11:53 PM
I think we need some pop quizzes for journalists as well. The most embarrassing example of ignorance for a "mainstream" media personality (as opposed to someone like Bill O'Reilly, whose entire stock in trade is ignorance) in recent years might be Tom Brokaw's repeated use of the phrase "Nation of Islam" to mean "Islamic nations" while moderating a debate.
Posted by: KCinDC | December 11, 2006 at 12:13 AM
You should only vote for people you can imagine having a beer with.
Posted by: SomeOtherDude | December 11, 2006 at 12:14 AM
Excellent post and list of questions, hilzoy: I mean, I got them all correct, but then, as a regular reader of Obsidian Wings, I should have... ;)
But however, it does remind me of that hardy perennial of ironic polling, where the pollster circulates a thinly-disguised (or in some cases, verbatim) version of the Constitutional Bill of Rights (Amendments 1-10): and invariably, a sizeable percentage of respondents will reject them as "too radical" a set of notions to be enacted into law.
Posted by: Jay C | December 11, 2006 at 12:14 AM
You should only vote for people you can imagine having a beer with.
if they are buying, that doesn't exclude a lot of people for me...
Posted by: liberal japonicus | December 11, 2006 at 12:27 AM
My personal favorite is h4 d ;)
Posted by: hilzoy | December 11, 2006 at 01:22 AM
You should only vote for people you can imagine having a beer with.
Rather rules out Muslims as political candidates in the US, doesn't it?
Posted by: magistra | December 11, 2006 at 04:13 AM
I suppose that a Muslim could just have beer present as a kind of American tribal totem, like the Bible, without actually drinking it. ;-)
Posted by: Jesurgislac | December 11, 2006 at 07:28 AM
1) What Andrew and Sebastian said. That aside, I don't think there's much in the way of question whether Israel has at least one nuke, and I think the rest of the world treats them as if they are so equipped, so it makes no difference to what degree we know their nuclear capability.
2) I think emptywheel's questions set the bar way too low. For instance, who of us doesn't know what AQ Khan is known for? Shouldn't committee heads be at least as well-informed as your average blog commenter?
2a) I mean, you could set it really low and ask them if they know who Grover Norquist is. [/selffunpoking]
Posted by: Slartibartfast | December 11, 2006 at 08:50 AM
We could ask some questions about right versus wrong. Delay atleast had the dignity to resign... but Pelosi seems to be online to let these corrupt Dem's continue.
I guess having him in charge of the same people investigating him isn't really a problem for Pelosi. Funny, how after the campaign she seems unable to distinguish right from wrong. Reminds me of some other people.
Posted by: bril | December 11, 2006 at 09:00 AM
h7. The United States is attacked by terrorists flying planes into buildings, do you respond by:
a. Contining reading a children's book.
b. Invading a country that had nothing to do with the attacks.
c. Throwing U.S. citizens in prison without a hearing or charges.
d. Kidnapping and torturing innocent civilians.
e. Violating the laws, Constitution and Treaties of the United States.
f. All of the above.
Posted by: Ugh | December 11, 2006 at 09:01 AM
Again, bril, as if you were ever paying attention: this isn't news. And hilzoy has already condemned Mollohan, if perhaps not as much at length as you'd prefer.
Which you'd know, if you were paying attention.
Posted by: Slartibartfast | December 11, 2006 at 09:15 AM
Delay atleast had the dignity to resign
But not so much dignity as to not become a blogger.
Posted by: liberal japonicus | December 11, 2006 at 09:25 AM
I suppose that a Muslim could just have beer present as a kind of American tribal totem, like the Bible, without actually drinking it. ;-)
I'm seeing this great ad campaign where the Prophet downs an O'Doul's, but it would probably get some people killed, so maybe not.
Posted by: Anderson | December 11, 2006 at 09:26 AM
Um...holy crap, how the hell did this happen?
You'd think that in positions like those, a security clearance would be involved, in some way. Possibly even an EBI of epic, nay: proctological nature. But apparently not:
No Orwell jokes, please.
Link via TPMmuckraker.
Posted by: Slartibartfast | December 11, 2006 at 09:29 AM
I'm seeing this great ad campaign where the Prophet downs an O'Doul's
By the beer of the Prophet!
Posted by: liberal japonicus | December 11, 2006 at 09:46 AM
LJ, shouldn't that be "Buy the beer of the Prophet!"?
Posted by: Ted | December 11, 2006 at 09:49 AM
LJ, shouldn't that be "Buy the beer of the Prophet!"?
Nope, it's a "By the power of Greyskull!" kind of thing.
Posted by: Ugh | December 11, 2006 at 10:01 AM
Off topic - all you ever wanted to know about Thomas of Bizarro World in one short sentence:
Pinochet's death is actually a loss for us all.
Posted by: Ugh | December 11, 2006 at 10:11 AM
Bizarro World commenter, CJB68, on South America:
Maybe we should be thankful that the non-stop revolutions that resulted have thus far prevented Latin America from becoming a significant power in its own right.
yes, it far better that they abduct, torture and kill each other than challenge us in any way. we must not be challenged!
Posted by: cleek | December 11, 2006 at 10:24 AM
cleek - they deserve what they get for not being clever enough to be born in the U.S
Posted by: Ugh | December 11, 2006 at 10:36 AM
More Thomas:
Pinochet is probably directly or indirectly responsible for ten thousand deaths; how many would Allende have inaugurated?
And how many kittens would Allende have killed? Hmmm? One can only wonder.
Posted by: spartikus | December 11, 2006 at 10:54 AM
You should only vote for people you can imagine having a beer with.
Bush's status as a recovering alcoholic made this polling question deeply weird. I mean, if you'd like to have a beer with a guy who's trying to resist his addiction, you're pretty terrible.
Posted by: FL | December 11, 2006 at 11:27 AM
SLART: "Um, holy crap, how the hell did this happen?"
Once I get beyond a certain thrilling admiration for folks who manage this sort of smirking fraud for decades, I think to myself that the prevalence of and, indeed, the preference for the non-credentialed in the Bush Administration has got to be a part of the religious/libertarian revolt against the elites that the Republican Party has been ginning up over the past 35 years.
There is Bush himself, of course, whom I expect to perform major surgery on himself any time now, because the voices in his head have told him the medical profession is just a pesky, elite, over-educated special interest. Remember, them IOUs in them thar file cabinets over at Treasury are just scraps of paper, people.
The amateurs recruited to run Iraq from the Green Zone were chosen based on how little they knew about everything.
Now, this guy Murphy, who fulfills the libertarian, Milton Friedman goal of doing away with all licensing and credentialing AND embodies the revolt against the legal profession demagogued in recent years. "Well, we can't hire an attorney for this post because our base would disapprove, so let's hire a guy who stayed at the Holiday Inn Express last night."
I feel like I'm watching a bizarro combination of the early Pol Pot and the young George Plimpton --- let's get rid of the Poindexters with eyeglasses because they must obviously be highly trained professional elites, and while we're at it, I think we can quarterback the Chicago Bears to the Superball. What could be so hard about throwing a football while nearsighted?
Of course, now we have various Democratic Congresspeople who wouldn't know a Sunni from a research tax credit. (We'll see if Bril reads the whole thread.)
I blame me. Every two and four years I get mad and elect my citizen peers: folks who don't know squat, which is their most attractive qualification. We need outsiders in Washington, who know nothing, just like me.
I might vote for Bril next time. It knows LESS than squat, which is what the Founding Fathers intended.
"Every profession is a conspiracy against the laity" George Bernard Shaw
Posted by: John Thullen | December 11, 2006 at 11:42 AM
Another choice quote from the T-man:
The real tragedy is that the judge who indicted him in Spain wasn't shot on the spot, for discouraging dictators from doing what Pinochet did, which is to say, relinquishing power.
It appears that Thomas is actually quite a fan of Pinochet's style of governance.
Posted by: Gromit | December 11, 2006 at 11:42 AM
Perhaps we should go beyond merely not discouraging dictators from relinquishing power and start encouraging them to do so. Say, set up a new government fund to provide $1 billion to each retiring dictator, along with Secret Service protection. After all, if we're going to say dictators shouldn't be held accountable for their actions, why not go all the way?
It seems that Thomas isn't interested in discouraging dictators from becoming dictators in the first place.
Posted by: KCinDC | December 11, 2006 at 12:00 PM
There's that, of course, but I was referring to the fact that he'd perpetrated this fraud on the United States Air Force for a large number of years that, needless to say, spanned more than one administration.
More here:
Not funny:
Posted by: Slartibartfast | December 11, 2006 at 12:04 PM
It appears that Thomas is actually quite a fan of Pinochet's style of governance.
makes me wonder if he regrets Saddam being asked to step down.
Posted by: cleek | December 11, 2006 at 12:08 PM
I do like how Thomas' style of argument neatly parallels the "at least we don't chop off their heads" excuse for our torture policies (i.e., Allende would have been worse).
Posted by: Ugh | December 11, 2006 at 12:14 PM
"the Superball"?
"Superbowl" would be the correct title, but it was thought up by a bunch of know-it-alls, and we know what they are up to!
Gromit:
"It appears that Thomas is actually quite a fan of Pinochet's style of governance."
This is deeply unfair to Pinochet. He'd have consulted with the Chicago Boys and opted for taking the judge up in an airplane, slicing his belly open, and tossing the chum to the fishes in the ocean.
I think Thomas' modus operandi is more along the lines of al Qaeda is Spain --- assassination of the judge or perhaps blowing up the train the judge is on.
I knew this weekend upon hearing of Pinochet's death that someone at Red State would take time out from monitoring Castro's condition, via voodoo doll, to rationalize the General's ugly job that somebody had to do.
It's like the Stalin/Mao versus Hitler debate. Yeah, but "your" guy Stalin murdered more humans than "our" guy Hitler, to which I say, true, but like Avis finishing second, what I love about Hitler is he tried so hard to make up lost ground.
Plucky sort, Hitler.
Posted by: John Thullen | December 11, 2006 at 12:40 PM
There seems to be a disconnect between the "we shouldn't negotiate with bad people" and "we shouldn't do anything to discourage dictators from stepping down" positions urged by conservatives.
Posted by: Steve | December 11, 2006 at 01:04 PM
Not at all. When dictators are US allies, they are not bad people. QED.
Posted by: Jesurgislac | December 11, 2006 at 01:07 PM
testing...
Posted by: hilzoy | December 11, 2006 at 02:00 PM
Hallelujah! Typepad has let me comment again!
Now I've forgotten what I originally wanted to say, other than: curse you, Typepad!
Posted by: hilzoy | December 11, 2006 at 02:01 PM
curse you, Typepad!
that's not very nice.
Posted by: Typepad | December 11, 2006 at 02:08 PM
What Typepad said. ;-)
Posted by: Ugh | December 11, 2006 at 02:12 PM
Not just RedState; also recent members of the National Security Council who think Pinochet "sav[ed] Chilean democracy".
Posted by: Katherine | December 11, 2006 at 03:52 PM
I'm seeing this great ad campaign where the Prophet downs an O'Doul's
Well, Islam only forbids alcohol. You could make the case that American beer is more like making love in a canoe, which I don't think Islam frowns on.
Posted by: Phoenician in a time of Romans | December 11, 2006 at 04:25 PM
O'Douls in de-alcoholized beer, I believe.
Posted by: spartikus | December 11, 2006 at 04:30 PM
Lacking an open thread, Kate Ziegler < ahref="http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/lane9/news/12963.asp">took down Janet Evans' last SCY distance freestyle American record last Friday, shaving nearly two seconds from a 16-year-old record.
Nice achievement, at 18 years of age.
Posted by: Slartibartfast | December 11, 2006 at 04:46 PM
Well, that was embarrassing.
Link, for those who like to click them.
Posted by: Slartibartfast | December 11, 2006 at 04:47 PM
It's amazing what people will do for lack of an open thread.
Posted by: KCinDC | December 11, 2006 at 08:47 PM
Andrew:
Someone must've forgot to let Olmert in on the 'secret' part:
Pay no attention to the warheads behind the curtain.
Posted by: matttbastard | December 11, 2006 at 11:35 PM
For sh*ts and giggles, I present the Top 10 Conservative Books of 2006, courtesy Human Events Online (Ann Coulter came in at number two.)
Posted by: matttbastard | December 12, 2006 at 12:34 AM