by hilzoy
Via TNR's Ryan Lizza, the Charlottesville Daily Progesss reports three more people who remember Goerge Allen using the n-word:
"One is a doctor, one is a nurse and one is retired and a former classmate of mine at the University of Virginia during the late 1960s and early 1970s. Only the former classmate does not wish to be named because a close relative works at a high level in the Bush administration.To put their recollections in some context, the alleged usage was in the 1972-1975 period when Allen was a UVa quarterback and then a UVa law student.
Yes, that’s more than 30 years ago, but never is a longer time.
The nurse who said she heard Allen’s use of the n-word, who agreed to be identified by a maiden name of Leah Deason, lived then in a house on Route 20 near the Key West subdivision. She and her housemates, including a UVa jock or two, often hosted poker games.
“He just threw it around so casually, it’s like he didn’t know any better,” she said. In poker games, “whenever he’d get a black card that he didn’t like, he would refer to it as a ‘nig--- card’ he needed to get rid of,” said Deason, a registered nurse and widow of a UVa faculty member. “Allen was in law school at the time,” she said.
Why would she bring up such a thing now and notify a reporter? “What infuriated me was the way he got up there and flat out lied about it,” she said.
The former classmate attended the same poker parties and recalled the same language from the then-law student. “It was part of his everyday speech,” he said. “It just rolled off his tongue. He’d get a black card he didn’t like and he’d toss it back and say, ‘I don’t need that nig--- ten.’”"
Just a few short weeks ago, Allen said:
""I do not remember ever using that word and it is completely false for them to say that was part of my vocabulary then, or since then, or now. I have never used such a word.""
At The Plank, Ryan Lizza has a list of the six people, not counting the three new ones, who say he did.
Allen got lucky when the Foley scandal came along and distracted attention from the succession of people who claimed that he was lying when he claimed never to have used the word in question. His luck might just have run out.
As in the Foley case, Allen's problem here seems to have been created mostly by his own idiotic response, rather than to what he did.
Suppose he had simply said he had used the word, many years ago, when it was more common, and when he did not appreciate how demeaning it was. He could express regret and say that he had learned a lot in the past 30 years.
Wouldn't that be smarter?
Why pretend never to have done stupid things?
Posted by: Bernard Yomtov | October 08, 2006 at 10:02 AM
Just like I've been saying for years: dumb as a bag of rocks.
Posted by: Nell | October 08, 2006 at 11:50 AM
He's got another thing to explain now too. According to one AP story:
His reason for this omission:The words doing all the weasel work in this one are "current market value." Those stock options aren't worth anything now, but what would they be worth after he manages to steer a few government contracts their way?
Good faith...right.
Posted by: nous | October 08, 2006 at 04:11 PM
Wonder if Jon Henke is regretting his decision to wade hip-deep into (murky) electoral water?
Posted by: matttbastard | October 08, 2006 at 05:08 PM
matttbastard: I imagine so. -- But then, I've always thought the idea of signing up as someone's spokesperson is very odd unless you have a lot of trust in that person. Otherwise, the likelihood that you'll just end up either lying or resigning in a way that harms your ex-boss just seems to great to risk.
And even before all this, I'm at a loss as to why anyone would have felt that amount of trust in Allen.
Posted by: hilzoy | October 08, 2006 at 05:17 PM
Thanks for the pointer, nous. Quite a story.
Our local weekly paper irritated the hell out of me this week by doing a pious editorial about negative campaigning and lowered discourse -- with the distinct implications that both Senate candidates are doing it.
Well, this stuff is being generated by Allen's own gaffes, hypocrisy, and lies, and by the news media themselves. Webb hasn't started any of this, hasn't run any negative ads.
He's trying hard to talk about the issues he wants to do something about, and having a fairly hard time being heard. He had to snap at Wolf Blitzer on a recent Situation Room appearance in order to get the chance to talk about Iraq.
The paper with the irritating editorial has failed to cover anything Webb actually said in the candidate's two local appearances. (Which, given the size of our community, is two more than most statewide candidates usually make, apart from the now-traditional local Labor Day events.)
Not that I personally mind more stories out there unfavorable to Allen.
Posted by: Nell | October 08, 2006 at 05:31 PM
As long as the paychecks cash, I doubt that Jon Henke has any regrets whatsoever.
Posted by: canal street | October 08, 2006 at 05:37 PM
Hil:
That's why I've been so baffled by Henke (particularly because of his previous non-partisan leanings) signing on with the Allen campaign, especially post-Macacagate. Prior to this, when I pictured a 'Reagan-esque libertarian Republican' the last pol who sprung to mind was Allen (hell, Webb fits the bill better, IMHO - even though he's no longer a Republican [obviously].)
Posted by: matttbastard | October 08, 2006 at 05:41 PM
"Wonder if Jon Henke is regretting his decision to wade hip-deep into (murky) electoral water?"
LJ asked, on his own blog, when Henke took the job, what we should think of him, and I replied counseling that we not judge him by his boss, but by his own acts and statements.
I've not particularly followed what else Henke has written, but I have to say that back when Allen was announcing that questions about Jewish ancestry was an "aspersion," and I posted about this and Henke wrote me, I wasn't at all impressed with Henke's and the Allen campaign's endlessly repeated charges that everyone criticizing Allen was anti-Semitic.
I tend to take false charges of that sort seriously.
"But then, I've always thought the idea of signing up as someone's spokesperson is very odd unless you have a lot of trust in that person."
On the one hand I feel the same way; on the other hand, lots of people are in a position where many attractive positions, as regards prestige, opportunity, and/or money (even potentially in the future), don't come along often, and temptation is never a rare motive.
And people can climb remarkably fast in politics (well, in many things, but politics among them). There are a bazillion examples of people going from press spokesperson to powerful/rich/famous, after all. Ambition should be thought of as a sibling of temptation, if it isn't.
On the other hand, not knowing Henke (although he did say in one of his e-mails to me that he "liked" me, which bemused me, since we'd never had any prior contact, but, then, we all only know each other from writing, even if in some cases its through exchanges and in others not), maybe he genuinely is convinced of the wonders of Allen, for some reason.
Or maybe Allen has pictures of Henke with Mark Foley and a goat. Beats me.
Posted by: Gary Farber | October 09, 2006 at 12:43 PM
Yeah, that was a good point, Gary, though what I think I was getting at (hindsight being what it is) was that this seems to be yet another example of the 'I'm a libertarian, so I'm above the fray' suddenly landing on one side. If libertarians were landing on both sides 50/50 or even 60/40 say, I'd be a little less interested. Couple that with the Christian right, I am tempted to suggest that the Republican party is the home to those people who like to be duped...
Posted by: liberal japonicus | October 09, 2006 at 06:23 PM