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July 10, 2006

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"I don't think a one of us would oppose a good idea just because it were Bush's.'

Who here objected to the Marine Wildlife declaration? Or to upping foreign aid (though we can debate how much has really gone out, and the restrictions on it)? Or to overthrowing the Taliban? A couple of people, but that's all; and what drives me crazy about that is that I've consistently blogged about how we're more or less losing at this point against the resurgent Taliban, and DaveC doesn't give a damn, and consistently says we needn't bother to do more! It's unbelievable!

Sorry to be offensive, obejectionable, and dishonorable, but I thought that this was a forum where we could speak frankly. Now that Israel's unilateral withdrawal from Gaza is likely to precipitate a huge war, why would anybody be in favor of a similar strategy in Iraq?

There really is something happening globally with the rcent incidents in India, NK, Israel, etc., and I perceive it as part of a larger struggle. My take is that there has to be a bad guy to defend our way of life and thinking, and that the bad guy has to be the USA. That is why I'm for the US not being benign, but actually fighting for what I believe is a better way of life. Now, I'm not opposed to criticism, but some action has to be taken. I don't think that the UN, HRW, Amnesty International are going to take on the bad guys. They haven't done that yet as far as I can tell.

Now that Israel's unilateral withdrawal from Gaza is likely to precipitate a huge war, why would anybody be in favor of a similar strategy in Iraq?

What a silly comparison, DaveC. It convinces me that you know nothing much about either Israel (or Gaza), nor Iraq; and worse, have not thought much about either country. You seem to be making a series of superficial, silly comments to try and pick a fight, and "not having much time" is no excuse. Join one of the open threads and make a superficial, silly comparison between two disparate situations if all you want is conversation.

That is why I'm for the US not being benign, but actually fighting for what I believe is a better way of life.

Can I point your kids to their local Army, Air Force, Navy or Marine recruiter for you?

I don't think that the UN, HRW, Amnesty International are going to take on the bad guys. They haven't done that yet as far as I can tell.

What, with their mighty armies? Are you saying you want the UN to finally have some forces with some teeth? Fine with me. Of course, based on this comment, I guess you're opposed to diplomacy.

Gary is speaking very effectively on my behalf as well as his own here. I really can't add anything but a "me too" to his comments, or his anger.

There really is something happening globally with the rcent incidents in India, NK, Israel, etc., and I perceive it as part of a larger struggle.

It occurs to me that this comment, tied to your earlier "this is a new world war" comment/link impies that NK is part of the militant Islam that we are fighting. Or in league with them or some-such. That is just bizarre.

I think North Korea is more likely simply taking advantage of the confusion to push their own agenda. They're not tied into the jihadist struggle, but there is a connection created by their perception they may be able to get away with more while everyone else is distracted.

I agree, Andrew. Which is why I feel it is odd to characterize their behvior as part of a larger struggle of world war proportions. That narrative seems to pitch it as the U.S/western world versus, well, everyone else.

I guess that does explain the existential fear, though. Because if I look at Israel fighting their neighbors, I just think "*sigh* Again?". When I see terrorists coordinating attacks to do terrible damage, I think that it is terrible, but I also note that it doesn't come close to destroying the country they hit. Etc. However, if I tied all of these events together through some narrative of "them vs. us" where them meant everyone who did (or threatened to do) terrible things to people, I guess I would probably be more terrified as well.

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