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May 03, 2006

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But what Starship Troopers has to do with any of this, I dunno.

It makes you feel all manly and warlike, and you won't take no stinkin' crap from no stinkin' bugs.

"It makes you feel all manly and warlike, and you won't take no stinkin' crap from no stinkin' bugs."

Bug-appeasor.

Objectively pro-bug.

Jes,

Regarding this comment, this is a warning for violating the posting rules. Gary is right. It was a unsolicited, gratuitous attack.

"Objectively pro-bug."

So, you confess!

You probably believe diplomacy can get the Skinnies on our side, too, bug-lover.

Whereas clearly if we invade and occupy the Skinnies, this will strike a fatal blow against the Bugs.

Never forget Buenos Aires!

Or you'll meet my little friend, the talking 60-second bomb.

Okay Gary, you remember waaay too much about Starship Troopers.

Especially since the last time I reread it was, I dunno, at least fifteen, maybe twenty, years ago.

But he's a fairly vivid writer. (Less so in his late years, of course.)

But "I'm a 60-second bomb! Fifty-nine! Fifty-eight! Fifty-seven!" was actually pretty funny, as well as memorable. To me, at least. Especially given Juan kinda cursing because he'd just grabbed the nearest thing to hand in his panic.

Surprised to see this unfortunate thread still getting traffic.

Charles: Regarding this comment, this is a warning for violating the posting rules. Gary is right. It was a unsolicited, gratuitous attack.

Going to go back and warn everyone else who's used Gary's surname as a verb? Or is it just me who's not allowed to do it?

Jesurgislac: "Going to go back and warn everyone else who's used Gary's surname as a verb? Or is it just me who's not allowed to do it?"

From my own view, I noted John Thullen saying "You're not an idiot. At least you tried to link, which would please Gary Farber," which was perfectly innocuous, and Catsy referred to "Farber-caliber pedantry," which was faintly annoying, but I'm willing to plead guilty to pedantry on occasion, if not necessarily in every given example, and in any case, again, the charge is relatively innocuous, whereas yours was distinctly a nasty slur, so from my view, it's a matter of usage, not a matter of who did it.

That you'd try to wiggle out, and not even remotely apologize, astonishes me not at all.

If you'd like to submit evidence of other people mis-using my name behind my back, though, do feel free.

It's actually, you know, not nice to say such things about someone. I'm not a perfect person, nor do I manage to always avoid saying stupid things I later regret, but I've never done that sort of thing to you, either. I'd suggest you just consider apologizing, but it seems futile.

And at this point, an apology under the gun and after multiple requests wouldn't carry all that much weight, anyway.

Myself, I say jerky things at times, but I always try to apologize when I've realized it, embarrassing and painful as it is, because it would be dishonorable to do otherwise. I'm otherwise often blunt and forceful in conversation, but not, I hope, out-of-bounds. If I ever am, I have no problem with having it brought to my attention, and I always at least try to do the right thing.

You, though: congratulations on your sense of honor, and your example of good behavior. What's wrong with you? Where's your sense of decency?

And now I drop this again, since I don't intend to lower myself into further personal debate. I apologize to everyone else for having this public boring silliness, which, hey, would have been avoided if Jes didn't insult me my back, and for no reason at all, save her fanatic, and rather bizarre, grudge. I'm not enjoying this, at all. Ick.

Going to go back and warn everyone else who's used Gary's surname as a verb?

I can only call folks on what I see, Jes, and no, I won't expend valuable time traipsing back to every thread where "farber" was derogatorily made into a verb. Yours was the worst offense, as Gary well mentioned upthread. You haven't apologized to me for lying about my previous writings, so I don't expect you to apologize for this.

Yeesh. Maybe I've been partying at the Watergate.

Jes -- for what it's worth, I agree with Charles. Especially now that Gary has made his views on it known.

Thank you, Hilzoy.

You have great honor.

Hilzoy: Jes -- for what it's worth, I agree with Charles. Especially now that Gary has made his views on it known.

While Charles does tend to get my back up on a personal/political level, I acknowledge I should have accepted his rebuke when he was speaking ex cathedra, as it were.

I won't verb Gary's surname again.

Thanks, Jes.

And by the way, I love the idea of Charles speaking ex cathedra ;)

that shit was banging

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