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August 12, 2005


Cindy Sheehan was on Democracy Now this morning. She seems to be holding her own pretty well against the likes of Bill O'Reilly:

AMY GOODMAN: Cindy Sheehan, the Drudge Report has been leading a campaign against you, along with Bill O'Reilly. And one of the points they make is that when you first met with President Bush, you came out with a very different impression, satisfied with the meeting, they say. And then you changed your tune. And they also talk about dissent within your family about what you're doing.

CINDY SHEEHAN: Well, for one thing, June of 2004 and August of 2005 are two different months. They're 14 months apart. And in June of 2004, we had buried Casey nine weeks before when we met with the President. I was still in a deep state of shock and a deep state of grief. And I'm still in a deep state of grief, and I will be for the rest of my life, thanks to George Bush, but I'm not in shock anymore, and I have informed myself. And I have known that four different reports have come out proving that this war was based on deceptions and lies, and it's for greed. And not one person should be dead. My son shouldn't be dead. And the killing shouldn't continue.

Against my better judgement, I read Erick's Redstate post about Cindy. Only on posts dealing with torture issues has the Redstate crowd, in general, been more transparently and repugnantly monstrous.

There are, thankfully, a few voices of decency over there, but they are few among many.

I can't understand the bloodlust in the hearts of those on the Right toward Ms. Sheehan.

For Erick over at Redstate to call her a media whore is way over the line, IMO.

O'Reilly has been a member of the Psychic Republicans Network for several years already.

Why? What makes the rabid right think she is a good or useful target? If they think she is dangerous to their cause(whatever that might be), they only make her more so by bringing attention to her.

But Kerry was attacked on his war record; and Michael Schiavo as a husband;and they seem to have some success, so what do I know.
Like the Schiavo case, if you go far enough over the top you can get away with it.

"At what point did the ability to change one's mind about a politician become something to be ridiculed and accused of instead of cherished as a basic right?"

Indeed, one can easily imagine that if she had left her initial meeting with the President and told the media it was unsatisfying- she would be dismissed by the same crowd as a dyed-in-the-wool political partisan. To the true believer, every data point supports their thesis by definition.


The viciousness of the attacks is related, I think, to the fact that this crowd is truly something different in American experience. They have a totalitarian mentality, which means they must have ALL the power, ALL the say, and that anyone disagrees with them is by definition illegitimate.

Ideas aren't the issue, the issue for them is whether you support them unconditionally, or not. If ideas were at stake, they would not have violated virtually every conservative tenet when in power. In Goldwater's terms, Bill Clinton was more conservative than these jerks.

That is why the politics of personal destruction is their standard operating procedure, and why efforts to discuss issues and facts with them is irrelevant - unless you can do it with an audience. Because they do not care about issues or facts. They care only about power.

This was brought home to me with a jolt when Karl Rove became at least one of the obvious leakers in the Valerie Plame case. The right wingers immediately shifted from giving lip service to the outing haveing been wrong, to attacking Wilson, Plame, and others all over again. All that changed was that one of their own was the guilty party, and their position shifted 100%.

Think of the shift in the Communist Party of the US after the Hitler-Stalin Pact. They went from denouncing the Nazis to denouncing those opposed to the Nazis. Same immediate flip-flop by all the Republican ideologues.

Sheehan's treatment fits this approach perfectly. For O'Leilly, Malkin, Limbaugh, and the other totalitarians, she has no right to disagree. And the BIg Lie is a perfectly fair approach to all issues.

We are dealing with genuine totalitarians, unAmerican Americans, paying lip service to American values while undermining every one of them.


Phil: Excellent.

Ha, also

(via atrios)

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