by hilzoy
Sebastian has been making an interesting argument about the history of blocking judicial nominees over in the 'Out of Bounds' thread, and what he said prompted me to do some more digging on the various ways in which, traditionally, judicial appointees could be blocked. A good short history by the Congressional Research Service is here (pdf). Some of the means included:
- Senatorial Courtesy: According to the Senate's traditions, the president is supposed to consult with members of his own party and with the Senators from the same state as a nominee. When he does not do so, any of those Senators can invoke 'Senatorial courtesy', a courtesy extended by Senators to one another, according to which, on some issues, Senators will defer to one another's views (the idea being that an insult to one is an insult to all, and that if, say, the home-state Senators or Senators of the President's party object to a nomination, the President must not have shown sufficient deference to the Senate as an institution.) From the history cited above:
"This unwritten tradition has meant that Senators from the home state of a nominee and also of the party of the President can block a nomination to a federal office within their state merely by objecting to it. Senators have also used the concept of “courtesy” to block a nominee of a President from another party, if the concerned Senator was in the majority in the chamber.23 And, the objections of a Senator from the minority party have also stopped nominations on numerous occasions.24 "
Senatorial courtesy is, apparently, invoked by this rather charming method:"Historically, a Senator has stood on the floor of the chamber and said that the nomination was “personally obnoxious” to him. Frequently, that pronouncement was sufficient to kill the nomination." (Same history.)
Senatorial courtesy has never been absolute, but it has frequently been used to kill nominees. - Blue Slips: The Judiciary Committee would send a letter, on blue paper, to the Senators from the same state as a nominee, asking whether they approved or disapproved the nomination. They have not always been decisive, but in the last half of the twentieth century they generally were. This was official policy under James Eastland (D-MS, chair 1956-1978) During the Clinton Administration, the letter itself included this passage:
"Please return this form as soon as possible to the nominations office. No further proceedings on this nominee will be scheduled until both blue slips have been returned by the nominee’s home state senators."
And, as Chair of the Judiciary, Orrin Hatch enforced the policy of not acting on any judicial nomination until two positive blue slips had been returned until 2001, when he decided that only one positive blue slip was required. In 2003, he announced that blue slips would henceforth be advisory, and moved the nomination of Henry Saad forward despite negative blue slips from both of Saad's home state Senators. - Holds: Here I will just quote the history cited above:
"A hold is a device by which Senators can block or delay action on a treaty, nomination or legislation, merely by telling their party leader that they want to delay floor action on the matter in question. Whether to grant that request is a decision of the leaders.
Nowhere in the written Senate rules is the tradition of “holds” to be found, and it is not clear when the practice began. The very nature of the holds process gives the majority and minority leaders a great deal of discretion in deciding whether to honor a request for a hold and, if so, for how long. However, implicit in a request for a hold is the ability of a Senator to use parliamentary tools to filibuster or to delay consideration of the nomination or legislation at issue. Also implicit in a request for a hold is the desire of the Senator to be consulted by party leadership on the matter subject to the hold. Holds can sometimes kill a nomination, but more frequently they delay action.43
Whether a Senator has placed a hold on a nomination or legislation is not publicly available information, and the information is closely held by the two party leaders.44 Only when a Senator announces that he or she has placed a hold on a measure or a matter does the information become public. Because every Senator can place a hold at any time for any reason, situations can get complicated with “multiple holds” and “counter holds.” Consider the following situation:
[I]n 1997, then-Senator Carol Moseley-Braun, a Democrat, put a hold on President Clinton’s nomination of Joe Dial for another term on the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC), precluding the nomination from being voted on before the end of the congressional session and thereby killing the nomination for good. In retaliation, Republican Senator Phil Gramm, a friend of Dial’s, maintained as of the spring of 1998 a hold on two judicial nominees for the state of Illinois. In retaliation against Gramm’s hold, Illinois’s other Democratic Senator, Richard Durbin, blocked the Senate’s consideration of a Republican education bill, pending final Senate action on the two judicial nominees from Illinois. The logjam ended, however, at the end of March 1998, when President Clinton agreed to nominate a Republican to the CFTC seat to which Dial had not been appointed. Almost immediately thereafter, Senator Gramm released his hold on the two Illinois judicial nominees, who were easily confirmed in early April 1998.45
"Holds can be overridden by a majority, although they were traditionally given some deference. Now, however, they are not useful for delaying votes on nominees, since they would be overridden. They would be even less useful if it were not possible to filibuster nominees, since one of the functions of a hold is to signal that a Senator feels strongly enough about a given nominee to seriously consider a filibuster.
- Filibusters: I have already discussed this at length. Too much length, some might say.
- Judiciary Committee Rule 4: This rule states the following:
"The Chairman shall entertain a non-debatable motion to bring a matter before the Committee to a vote. If there is objection to bring the matter to a vote without further debate, a rollcall vote of the Committee shall be taken, and debate shall be terminated if the motion to bring the matter to a vote without further debate passes with ten votes in the affirmative, one of which must be cast by the minority." (emphasis added.)
What that means is: according to the rules of the Judiciary Committee, debate on a nominee cannot be concluded without at least one affirmative vote from the minority party. And, of course, if debate is not concluded, then the nomination is not reported out, and it dies. This rule therefore means that if the minority party is unanimously opposed to a given nomination, it cannot succeed. It was overridden, though not removed, by Senator Hatch early in 2003. From Think Progress:
"In 1997, when Clinton’s nominee for assistant attorney general for civil rights at the Department of Justice, Bill Lann Lee, came to a floor vote, Senator Hatch said:
Rule IV of the Judiciary Committee rules effectively establishes a committee filibuster right… Absent the consent of a minority member of the Committee, a matter may not be brought to a vote.
On February 27, 2003, then-Chairman Orrin Hatch threw this rule out the window and employed his own mini-nuclear option. When faced with upholding this rule during the committee hearing for Jeffrey Sutton, Deborah Cook and John Roberts (three controversial circuit court nominees), Hatch went against his own previous statement, overrode the rule, and said to the minority: “[Y]ou have no right to continue a filibuster in this committee.” The nominations moved out of committee, paving the path for the nominees currently being debated on the Senate floor, Janice Rogers Brown and Priscilla Owen, to clear the Committee by a strictly party-line vote."
Patrick Leahy had a very good statement at the time, in which he goes over a good deal of the history of Rule IV.
So, to sum up: Senatorial courtesy would have allowed any Senator from a nominee's home state, from the President's party, or from the majority to block a nominee, but it no longer works. Holds would have allowed any Senator to block any nomination, subject to the Senate leadership's decision about whether to honor them, but they don't seem to be working any more either. Blue slips used to allow either of the Senators from a nominee's home state to block a nomination, but have now been declared 'advisory', and nominations have proceeded despite them. Until 2003, nominations could not make it out of the Judiciary Committee without at least one vote from the minority party, but this rule, while still in existence, was overridden in 2003. The only remaining means whereby the minority can block a nominee is the filibuster.
I researched this originally because Sebastian had suggested that if a nominee failed to make it out of the Judiciary Committee, he or she must be opposed by the majority party, and would therefore have failed on an up or down vote in any case; and therefore that if a nominee failed to make it out of committee, that could not be a case in which he or she was blocked by the minority. I suspected this wasn't true, and (being an academic with some free time this afternoon) set out to see what the facts were. I really hadn't realized how many of the traditional means by which members of the minority party could have blocked nominees had been done away with in the last few years. This leaves filibusters as the only remaining means by which they can do so when they are profoundly opposed to a nomination. And the availability, in the past, of so many other means of blocking nominees leaves me surprised that the recent Democratic filibusters are not completely unprecedented, as Frist and Santorum have suggested.
Great post, hilzoy. If you keep this up, you'll start accumulating marriage proposals again.
Posted by: Dantheman | May 20, 2005 at 03:06 PM
Excellent, excellent research.
Not that it will do any good, of course. Ears that will not hear....
Unfortunately, it all requires listeners to have more than a 10-second attention span......
Posted by: zmulls | May 20, 2005 at 03:08 PM
Thanks, hilzoy.
Posted by: DaveL | May 20, 2005 at 03:11 PM
[Copied from other thread]
I was driving home from a late lunch (I'm staying home with a finicky sump pump) and heard the cloture motion live on C-Span radio. Frist was absent, so Cornyn did the deed. 18 co-sponsors of the motion, none of whom are those previously thought to be in play. I find it interesting that the motion specifically invokes Rule XXII to cut off debate. I mean, how does one get off arguing that the provisions of Rule XXII are irrelevant or unconstitutional as applied to a motion made under Rule XXII?
Also interesting is that Cornyn proposed a couple of alternatives before making the motion: first asking unanimous consent for 10 hours of additional debate to be followed by an immediate vote with no intervening motions [?] in order -- which drew a barely audible objection -- and then for more [15?] hours of debate followed by an immediate vote. Reid's voice was heard, objecting and making the point that he was permitted to object. I'm no rules maven, but this seemed a little silly to me, if the immediate consequence was to be the cloture motion. As it was unfolding, I thought this would be the nuclear moment, but with the filing of the motion -- and a vote to be taken on it sometime Tuesday -- the moment passed.
Posted by: CharleyCarp | May 20, 2005 at 03:32 PM
hilzoy: To clarify your bolded passage:
debate on a nominee cannot be concluded without at least one vote from the minority party.
should read
debate on a nominee cannot be concluded without at least one affirmative vote from the minority party.
since the minority party voting nay isn't sufficient to meet the given criterion.
Posted by: Anarch | May 20, 2005 at 03:37 PM
Anarch: right you are. I will update. Note to anyone who is interested: I think this falls under the rubric of 'not changing posts in ways that alter their sense', but if anyone cares, the way Anarch quoted it was the way it read until, oh, a minute from now.
Posted by: hilzoy | May 20, 2005 at 03:41 PM
Interesting. Thanks for doing the research.
Posted by: Jesurgislac | May 20, 2005 at 04:07 PM
At least the democrats had the decency to not change all the rules giving the minority a voice when they had the majority.
Now the republicans are calling it ...what this week?...the "constitutional" option?
Posted by: carsick | May 20, 2005 at 04:30 PM
Wow, thank you. This provides excellent, exhaustive context of the action as a power grab.
Posted by: carpeicthus | May 20, 2005 at 04:33 PM
Just remember these facts the next time Hatch launches one of his odious remarks about how unprecendented Democractic behavior is. Hatch was the king of obstructionism for years, and then since 2001 was the architect of undoing these devices used so often by the Republicans for years.
And the Hatch efforts blocked between 60 and 70 Clinton nominees, who were denied any vote -- compared to the 10 (now down to 7) blocked by Dems.
I expect this thread will be ignored by the usual Bush defenders -- facts being such troublesome things.
Posted by: dmbeaster | May 20, 2005 at 05:39 PM
I'm ignoring this thread at the bequest of dmbeaster. I hate facts and I don't want to read how many laws the Republicans are breaking. So I am ignoring this thread. They are breaking the law, right?
Btw, anyone here know who won the election in 2004?
Just curious?
Omigod! The party in power is going after power. Who would have ever believed that? Thankgoodness FDR didn't load the court with judges that supported his policies.
Posted by: 123concrete | May 20, 2005 at 05:54 PM
123
The issue that many conservatives are also concerned about is when all the rules are changed in favor of the simplist majority that, despite your potential view on 'fairness' or 'intent', turnabout is fair play.
Posted by: carsick | May 20, 2005 at 06:20 PM
Btw, anyone here know who won the election in 2004?
oh how i hope you're here in 2007, when the Dems get to explore the intricacies of all these wonderful lawful loopholes.
Posted by: cleek | May 20, 2005 at 06:44 PM
123: Btw, anyone here know who won the election in 2004?
You are being simplistic. The Republican Party didn't win the 2004 election. Just like everyone else in the country, on November 2, 2004, I only got the chance to vote for the President, my congressman and two (or one or zero) Senators.
We don't vote for a political party to lord over the country every two years.
Posted by: Blue Neponset | May 20, 2005 at 06:49 PM
But hilzoy, surely all those things are unconstitutional. Why, the Constitution clearly requires a yes-or-no vote on judicial nominations.
I heard Bill Frist say so.
Posted by: Bernard Yomtov | May 20, 2005 at 06:49 PM
I heard Bill Frist say so.
For Bill Frist is an honorable man;
So are they all, all honorable men.
Posted by: DaveL | May 20, 2005 at 07:06 PM
Going further into history, Madison proposed that it take a supermajority to reject a nominee (as picked up by Ann and Betsy).
I agree with blue slips being advisory, but the history has varied with the Chair. Joe Biden wrote to then President GHW Bush in 1989:
Ever since Bork, judicial nominations have gotten more and more politicized, and now the environment is radioactive. The old forms of blocking and delaying made sense when Senators weren't so political over judges, and when the atmosphere was more collegial and less polarized. Those quaint traditions don't apply any more. This is straight, ugly, bare-knuckled power politics, and I don't see it changing back. Ever.Posted by: Charles Bird | May 20, 2005 at 09:30 PM
"This is straight, ugly, bare-knuckled power politics, and I don't see it changing back. Ever."
That is because one party can't get what it wants (banning or limiting abortion) through the legislature or constitutional amendment and so is determined to achieve its goal by stacking the courts with activist judges.
Posted by: bob mcmanus | May 20, 2005 at 09:52 PM
Charles notes: "Going further into history, Madison proposed that it take a supermajority to reject a nominee (as picked up by Ann and Betsy)."
Yes, the founders contemplated endless possible permutations of government they discarded. They also discussing having a king. It matters rather a tad more what they agreed upon, not what fancies crossed through someone's head.
"The old forms of blocking and delaying made sense when Senators weren't so political over judges, and when the atmosphere was more collegial and less polarized. Those quaint traditions don't apply any more. This is straight, ugly, bare-knuckled power politics, and I don't see it changing back. Ever."
Respect your sincerity, how is this different from saying "might makes right"? And what, precisely, in this reasoning doesn't apply to eliminating all filibusters, not just judicial filibusters, as the Republican leadership has sworn up and down will never, ever, happen, it's just judges, honest, trust us!
I have to state for the nth time how absolutely stunning it is to see "conservatives" dismissing breaking the rules of the Senate as trivial, and saying "those quaint traditions don't apply any more," period, in regard to our government. This is conservatism? What cannot be torn down with this reasoning?
I've pretty much always dismissed all those who mutter about creeping fascism, but I have to say that this sort of reasoning put forth as "conservative" is genuinely frightening to me. I know something about conservatism, and this, sir, is not conservatism. (Hi, Bob!)
This sort of "conservatism" would cut a great road through custom and law to get after the Devil of "liberals" and when the last rule was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, the rules all being flat?
Posted by: Gary Farber | May 20, 2005 at 09:52 PM
Hi Gary! Hi Thomas! More's granting the debbil his day in court applies even better to torture threads I think.
Posted by: bob mcmanus | May 20, 2005 at 10:25 PM
123: Cite, please, for where I've said FDR's court packing scheme was either A) not a power-grab exceeding the rules of the game or B) A good thing in any case.
You might want to start in the cube-shaped world where Lex Luthor am #1 Super Hero.
You're a fairly smart guy; try another argument besides the non-sequitur and see where it gets you.
Posted by: carpeicthus | May 20, 2005 at 10:33 PM
"More's granting the debbil his day in court applies even better to torture threads I think."
Well, you know, the quotes are good for all seasons. (Couldn't resist, sorry.)
Posted by: Gary Farber | May 20, 2005 at 10:34 PM
The old forms of blocking and delaying made sense when Senators weren't so political over judges, and when the atmosphere was more collegial and less polarized. Those quaint traditions don't apply any more. This is straight, ugly, bare-knuckled power politics, and I don't see it changing back. Ever.
I think that CB has a point here, though. Congress is no longer run by Ivy League alumni and those who defer to them. Nor does "not behaving like a gentleman" either get you a challenge to a duel or social ostracization. More people (and corporations, and countries) want to feel empowered to put pressure on congress people; the calls to the phones from Kos and FreeRepublic alone must mark a significant change in the way congresspeople understand their roles.
I don't think that this immediate climate is healthy for this particular rules-change, but the fact that the ability of the minority party is now limited to this bizarre, melodramatic last-ditch effort is even wierder. And the earlier rules hilzoy cites above are almost as byzantine as Sebastian's bridge conventions. Gentlemen's agreements and obscure "traditions" (my honorable opponent will know that a two club bid means that I am threatening a filibuster if he moves to cloture) don't seem quite the thing for a democracy that is vulnerable to rabid partisanship and well-organized, broad-based pressure groups. I don't know what would be better; I don't think it's working "just fine" right now, but I don't trust the people or the projects for current change.
Posted by: Jackmormon | May 20, 2005 at 11:08 PM
Ever since Bork, judicial nominations have gotten more and more politicized, and now the environment is radioactive.
I know the popular wisdom is that this started with Bork, but it goes back further than that, to Fortas at least. Personally, I suspect it goes back to the 50s and the Warren Court; certainly bob mcmanus, among others, agrees.
Posted by: Anarch | May 21, 2005 at 01:50 AM
I know the popular wisdom is that this started with Bork, but it goes back further than that, to Fortas at least. Personally, I suspect it goes back to the 50s and the Warren Court; certainly bob mcmanus, among others, agrees.
The NYT had some stats that would back that up. They had percentage of nominees confirmed going back quite a few decades, it has been falling steadily. I don't have a link, I was reading the dead tree edition. But I would be interested to know what people think the reason is that the percentage of judges being confirmed has been steadily falling for 40 years or so.
It ain't a Bork thing, started way before that.
Posted by: felixrayman | May 21, 2005 at 02:09 AM
Anarch:
You are right. Right-wingers like to blame it on Dems so they cite to Bork, ignoring history in the process. The reality is that the right's cultural war began in response to the decisions of the 50s, 60s and early 70s, and they seek activist judges to fight their cultural war. Bork was the first showdown on the right's agenda to politicize the courts with avowedly activist judges.
It is nonsensical to claim that opposition to that trend allegedly started it. But it provides cover for the obvious contradiction that Republicans are allegedly against activist judges while seeking to appoint them.
One thing should be clear -- judges make a decision in their careers to be activist and known as such, or not. The current crop of conservative activist judges have been doing it for years to get noticed and get picked for higher positions. The politization of the courts is deliberate both by the Republican judges and the Republican party.
The ultimate irony is that so much of the "activist" Warren court was shaped by Republicans (like Warren and Blackmun) as much as Democrats that were appointed to the US Supreme Court. This is really about the cultural war, which the Republicans also waged against the moderate elements (now defunct) in their own party.
Posted by: dmbeaster | May 21, 2005 at 02:19 AM
Personally, I suspect it goes back to the 50s and the Warren Court; certainly bob mcmanus, among others, agrees."
If you look at hilzoy's confirmation stats, controversial judge nominations probably go back to the founding.
One of the biggest perks of being a Senator was the ability to get your home-state supporters federal judgeships, and it has been jealously protected. In practice, Senators had at least as much real power in the appointment of judges as the President (the President would bargain,haggle,trade,etc.) But Senators used to be very powerful independent agents, especially when chairmanships were based in seniority. Whether it is temporary or permanent, since Bork the partisan nature of confirmation fights has drastically increased. As Republicans have approached a majority, but not anywhere near a comfortable majority, they have been able to enforce party discipline. Democrats didn't need party discipline, when they had large majorities, or couldn't enforce it, in the days of Dixiecrats. Now they don't know what it is, but they will have to learn.
A Senator should not be so partisan; he shouldn't need the assistance of the President and Party to get elected as much as house members. When I was young Dirksen, Johnson, Russell were dudes, and the President made appointments with them, not the other way round
Posted by: bob mcmanus | May 21, 2005 at 06:39 AM
"Those quaint traditions don't apply any more. This is straight, ugly, bare-knuckled power politics, and I don't see it changing back. Ever."
Part of this has to do with the uncomfortable partisan majority of the Republicans. Should, God save us all, Republican approach 70 Senators, many of those traditions and games would re-emerge.
Posted by: bob mcmanus | May 21, 2005 at 06:47 AM
Respect your sincerity, how is this different from saying "might makes right"?
Well, I think I described the "might" part of it but did not offer an opinion as to "right". Both sides are playing power politics here, and it's just a fact of life, right or wrong. As for not messing with filibusters beyond judges, I take Frist & Co. at their word. You may have a different opinion. If the Republican principle is that judges should get an up or down vote, there is no reason to believe that Republicans will pursue removing filibusters in other areas. It's going to be hard enough removing the filibuster rule on judges. Why go beyond that? Why try to scorch earth that's already been burned?
I have to state for the nth time how absolutely stunning it is to see "conservatives" dismissing breaking the rules of the Senate as trivial, and saying "those quaint traditions don't apply any more," period, in regard to our government. This is conservatism? What cannot be torn down with this reasoning?
I would say it is conservative to upend the Democrats' supremely unconservative attempt to use filibusters on 22% of the circuit court nominees appointed by the president. This is a response to a new and unheard of precedent set by the Daschle-Reid Democrats.
I'm sure there was plenty of partisanship prior to Bork. The Fortas nomination was also partisan, but he had other problems and he wouldn't have been confirmed anyway, and that was in a Democratic-controlled Senate. Bork was a watershed moment because it ratcheted the partisanship to a level not before seen.
Posted by: Charles Bird | May 21, 2005 at 01:51 PM
If the Republican principle is that judges should get an up or down vote...
But it isn't.
Or at least, if it is, it's a 2005 vintage. So it's not a really a "principle" at all, is it?
I would say it is conservative to upend the Democrats' supremely unconservative attempt to use filibusters on 22% of the circuit court nominees appointed by the president. This is a response to a new and unheard of precedent set by the Daschle-Reid Democrats.
And how do you counter the charge that the only reason that the Democrats are employing the filibuster is the Republicans' unprecedented dismantling of all other options for the minority party to block such nominations? There are certainly broken precedents here, and they almost uniformly stack up on the other side of the aisle. If the nuclear option is pursued then -- pretty much whichever variant is undertaken -- calling the Democrats "supremely unconservative" is going to run you out of adjectives to describe the GOP.
[For that matter, how do you counter the charge that the claim which is supposedly "unprecedented" gets more and more specific by the minute? What's next; this is the first time anyone's ever attempted to block a circuit court judge appointed by the President... while he was wearing a yellow tie?!]
Posted by: Anarch | May 21, 2005 at 02:05 PM
Also:
The Fortas nomination was also partisan, but he had other problems...
True.
...and he wouldn't have been confirmed anyway.
False, insofar as we know. He probably had the votes at the beginning -- that's why they filibustered -- but his support was soft and it eroded over the four days of the filibuster.
Posted by: Anarch | May 21, 2005 at 02:07 PM
"If the Republican principle is that judges should get an up or down vote, there is no reason to believe that Republicans will pursue removing filibusters in other areas."
If the Republican principle is a standard invented out of thin air, and in contradiction to all their past behavior of filibustering judges -- as it is -- there's no reason to believe they won't invent the same "Constitutional" "requirement" for any other nominee or bill. (As well, I'm not clear what would now stop them from violating any other Senate rule they like, since the Republican majority will be there to vote in favor of the President of the Senate's ruling that objection is out of order, and that's a hunky-dory way of doing business now.) But I don't imagine you'll agree, so you needn't bother disagreeing if you don't desire.
Posted by: Gary Farber | May 21, 2005 at 02:24 PM
"If the Republican principle is that judges should get an up or down vote, there is no reason to believe that Republicans will pursue removing filibusters in other areas."
If the Republican principle is a standard invented out of thin air, and in contradiction to all their past behavior of filibustering judges -- as it is -- there's no reason to believe they won't invent the same "Constitutional" "requirement" for any other nominee or bill. (As well, I'm not clear what would now stop them from violating any other Senate rule they like, since the Republican majority will be there to vote in favor of the President of the Senate's ruling that objection is out of order, and that's a hunky-dory way of doing business now.) But I don't imagine you'll agree, so you needn't bother disagreeing if you don't desire.
On a complete tangent, I've been finding ObWings loading slower and slower in the past few days; then this morning, comments weren't working at all for me for a few hours; in the past couple of hours, the server is frequently not connecting at all.
Posted by: Gary Farber | May 21, 2005 at 02:29 PM
Gary, I fear that OW is becoming too popular for its current hosting environment and may need to move, as Crooked Timber did under similar cirumstances.
The Republicans claim that this supposed principle is in the Constitution, apparently embedded somewhere inside the words "advice and consent". Since those words apply to appointing not just judges but "Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law", why on earth would anyone expect that the Republicans would stop at abolishing the filibuster for judges alone?Posted by: KCinDC | May 21, 2005 at 03:23 PM
Breaking the rules in order to change the rules just does not fit any definition of conservative. The conservative way for the right-wing to deal with the intolerable situation of not getting everything they want is the try to get a filibuster proof majority, or win the war of ideas and convince enough Democrats to join in a legitimate vote to change the rules. You know, actually play by the rules, the way the Democrats are doing. Short of success there, the only other option is to act like mature adults and understand the wisdom of the Rolling Stones - "you can't always get what you want."
Posted by: mas | May 21, 2005 at 03:27 PM
Just another little reminder that despite the "new" politization of the judicial nomination process.
Here are some interesting figures from American Enterprise Institute:
Judicial Nominations
Percent of nominees confirmed
Carter: 93.1%
Reagan: 96.1%
Bush I: 78.1%
Clinton: 87.9%
Bush II: 96.6%
Seems closer to an Executive State (you know what that means) if it is considered a problem that Bush isn't at 100% confirmation.
Especially considering that Reagan did have a lot more that a 2 to 3% "mandate."
Posted by: carsick | May 22, 2005 at 07:41 PM
This is slightly OT but a gentleman by the name of Patterico is offering a challenge to those who dispute Justice Owen's suitability as a candidate here. I'd suggest, to all who are interested in taking him up on the matter, that you read both the "rules" of the challenge as well as Patterico's previous columns and blog entries to get some idea of what you're getting yourself into.
Posted by: Anarch | May 22, 2005 at 08:06 PM
I'd be interested in anyone's speculation how Justice Brown would have decided http://pacer.cadc.uscourts.gov/docs/common/opinions/200505/03-5153a.pdf> this case from last week, had she been confirmed, and on the panel. We know she doesn't like social security, and I'd guess she doesn't like illegitimacy. I'd guess no difference in result, but what's the big deal about getting her on the court then? I noticed that no DC Circuit judges were on Sebastian's list of bad Clinton appointments . . .
Posted by: CharleyCarp | May 23, 2005 at 10:29 AM