by Edward
via a diary by Harley on Tacitus
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What kind of monsters are they churning out over at the CIA? I mean, I know they must have taken lots of heat for missing the signs that the 9/11 attacks were coming, but at what point did Tenet or whomever start approving secret rendition programs and training our agents to behave just like the tyrants we're supposed to be clearing off the earth:
In November 2002, a newly minted CIA case officer in charge of a secret prison just north of Kabul allegedly ordered guards to strip naked an uncooperative young Afghan detainee, chain him to the concrete floor and leave him there overnight without blankets, according to four U.S. government officials aware of the case.
The Afghan guards -- paid by the CIA and working under CIA supervision in an abandoned warehouse code-named the Salt Pit -- dragged their captive around on the concrete floor, bruising and scraping his skin, before putting him in his cell, two of the officials said.
As night fell, so, predictably, did the temperature.
By morning, the Afghan man had frozen to death.
After a quick autopsy by a CIA medic -- "hypothermia" was listed as the cause of death -- the guards buried the Afghan, who was in his twenties, in an unmarked, unacknowledged cemetery used by Afghan forces, officials said. The captive's family has never been notified; his remains have never been returned for burial. He is on no one's registry of captives, not even as a "ghost detainee," the term for CIA captives held in military prisons but not registered on the books, they said.
"He just disappeared from the face of the earth," said one U.S. government official with knowledge of the case.
The CIA case officer, meanwhile, has been promoted...
The twenty-something Afghani lies decomposing in a pit, totally unbeknown to his family, and the US-trained murderer who killed him has been promoted. But, accountability-wise, it gets even worse:
In spring 2004, when the CIA first referred the Salt Pit case to the Justice Department for possible prosecution, the department cited the prison's status as a foreign facility, outside the jurisdiction of the U.S. government, as one reason for declining to prosecute, U.S. government officials aware of the decision said.
Except:
The CIA, however, paid the entire cost of maintaining the facility, including the electricity, food and salaries for the guards, who were all vetted by agency personnel. The CIA also decided who would be kept inside, including some "high-value targets," senior al Qaeda leaders in transit to other, more secure secret CIA prisons.
I know, I know, there's a war on, we're short-handed, and this was a "dangerous" twenty-something-year-old (who even our own people admit was probably only "associated with people who were associated with al Qaeda.") Sh*t happens, right?
Not in my name, it doesn't. Here's the email page on the CIA's website. And here's a copy of the letter I've sent Director Goss:
Dear Director Goss,
I'm writing, as an American citizen, to express my outrage at the news report in today's Washington Post that a CIA case officer who ordered the circumstances that led to the death of an Afghani youth has not been punished for his crime, but instead promoted within the CIA.
It quite frankly sickens me that our agents are currently demonstrating to Afghani guards that we place so little value on due process or even human life. Clearly, the Afghanis who carried out this case officer's orders must have snickered when they heard the President say "America's belief in human dignity will guide our policies."
That you and your staff permit officers like this to make a mockery of the President's words is so unAmerican in my opinion, it makes me question what your agency thinks it's protecting. America is more than borders and buildings or even people. It's also a set of values that are just as precious and vulnerable. This case officer attacked those values through his actions, and the agency rewarded him for it.
You should know that, as an American, I am angry and deeply ashamed.
Sincerely,
{my information}
I don't honestly expect it to do any good, but perhaps if more Americans begin speaking out, the Administration may be begin to understand that they very poorly represent us when they destroy what we stand for in their attempts to "protect" us.
Nerdnote: Edward, the correct term for a native of Afghanistan is an Afghan: Afghani is their unit of currency. With reference to your letter to Director Goss, it hardly matters: it's a fairly standard mistake, and he'll know what you mean. I just, um... have to proofread. /nerdnote
Good letter.
Nor is this poor guy the only one:
Posted by: Jesurgislac | March 09, 2005 at 10:59 AM
Thanks Jes,
I realized after I sent it, but concluded the same thing...he'll know what I mean.
What really pisses me off about this one though, is the signal they're sending by promoting this criminal.
Posted by: Edward | March 09, 2005 at 11:04 AM
Good for you, Edward.
Posted by: hilzoy | March 09, 2005 at 11:06 AM
Good for you Edward.
One tiny nit, not with you but with The Post. The victim was in his 20's and the article's use of "young" and "youth" seems a little disingenuous, he'd be older than most the U.S. soldiers there. Has nothing to do with the issue of culpability of course.
Posted by: Macallan | March 09, 2005 at 11:14 AM
The victim was in his 20's and the article's use of "young" and "youth" seems a little disingenuous,
From where I stand, he's a kid, Mac. A kid who deserved better regardless of the age of his captors.
Posted by: Edward | March 09, 2005 at 11:15 AM
The torture statute, 18 USC 2340A expressly applies outside of the United States:
"(a) Offense. - Whoever outside the United States commits or attempts to commit torture shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both, and if death results to any person from conduct prohibited by this subsection, shall be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life.
(b) Jurisdiction. - There is jurisdiction over the activity prohibited in subsection (a) if -
(1) the alleged offender is a national of the United States; or
(2) the alleged offender is present in the United States, irrespective of the nationality of the victim or alleged offender.
(c) Conspiracy. - A person who conspires to commit an offense under this section shall be subject to the same penalties (other than the penalty of death) as the penalties prescribed for the offense, the commission of which was the object of the conspiracy."
Of course "it all depends on what the definition of 'torture' is."
Posted by: Katherine | March 09, 2005 at 11:20 AM
He isn't a kid, by any definition. It's an emotional and counterfactual appeal that has nothing to do with the incident.
Posted by: Macallan | March 09, 2005 at 11:22 AM
Thanks for that Katherine. For me, the idea that an American agent is not prosecutable because he was working, presumably, for America, in a facility run by another government (whose land we just so happen to currently occupy) is so lame it should embarass them anyway.
Posted by: Edward | March 09, 2005 at 11:24 AM
How old are you, Macallan? I'm 38, and I confess that I tend to see a 20 year old as a "kid" - though heaven knows I'd never have thought of myself as a kid when I was 20.
Posted by: Jesurgislac | March 09, 2005 at 11:29 AM
He isn't a kid, by any definition. It's an emotional and counterfactual appeal that has nothing to do with the incident.
And? If he were 70, then this would be OK? Or would we be guilty of being too emotional if we associated him with our grandfather?
Empathy is not a bad thing, in my book, Mac. It is relevant to me that he was in his 20's. It suggests he might not have the same skills of deception an older person might have had. It suggests he might be facing jail time for the first time and hence somewhat scared. It suggests he has known nothing but poverty and war his entire short life. And all of this suggests the CIA case officer is a monster for murdering him, regardless of who he might have known who might have known someone in Al Qaeda.
Posted by: Edward | March 09, 2005 at 11:29 AM
I'm 27. I'd call a 20 year-old a kid. Think of them as young, and a youth.
Posted by: James Casey | March 09, 2005 at 11:32 AM
I'd call him a kid. And he would be always a little kid for his family like all of us, no matter how old we are, we always would be a little kids for our family.
Posted by: mky | March 09, 2005 at 11:39 AM
"For me, the idea that an American agent is not prosecutable because he was working, presumably, for America, in a facility run by another government (whose land we just so happen to currently occupy) is so lame it should embarass them anyway."
Yup, that is a lame excuse. And even if not prosecutable, he certainly didn't have to be promoted.
Posted by: Sebastian Holsclaw | March 09, 2005 at 11:44 AM
oh, you are SO getting tortured for writing that letter.
Posted by: Porter Goss | March 09, 2005 at 11:44 AM
Edward,
That's a great post.
Posted by: mky | March 09, 2005 at 11:45 AM
oh, you are SO getting tortured for writing that letter.
That did occur to me...my response: bring it on.* Seriously, at a certain point these stories must raise anger, outrage, and calls for accountability. How else will those in power understand they work for us.
*Of course, ask me how much bravado I'll have if there's a loud knock on my door in the middle of the night...if I don't post for a few weeks and have left no notices, you will inquire with the NYPD, won't ya?
Posted by: Edward | March 09, 2005 at 11:50 AM
Thanks for that Katherine. For me, the idea that an American agent is not prosecutable because he was working, presumably, for America, in a facility run by another government (whose land we just so happen to currently occupy) is so lame it should embarass them anyway.
Especially since we tend to claim jurisdiction anytime an American citizen is killed anywhere (IIRC). Not to mention that we also claim the ability to tax people for years after they expatriate; and tax citizens who work and live overseas.
Posted by: Ugh | March 09, 2005 at 11:54 AM
if I don't post for a few weeks and have left no notices, you will inquire with the NYPD, won't ya?
Hell, I'll stage an invasion. Last time we did this, we burned down the White House, as I recall. ;-)
Posted by: Jesurgislac | March 09, 2005 at 11:55 AM
I'll just activate the ObsidianWings Contributor Transponder (patent pending, von can you get on that?)
Posted by: Sebastian Holsclaw | March 09, 2005 at 11:57 AM
Hell, I'll stage an invasion. Last time we did this, we burned down the White House, as I recall. ;-)
LOL
sorry, but I had a mental image of Laura Bush trying to decide which Presidential portrait to save and choosing Clinton's.
Posted by: Edward | March 09, 2005 at 12:00 PM
Of course "it all depends on what the definition of 'torture' is."
Yes. Any odds on whether AG Gonzales is going to prosecute?
Posted by: Bernard Yomtov | March 09, 2005 at 12:04 PM
Has anyone gathered all of the torture information together in one place? Seems like we'd have quite a lengthy list (the following come to mind):
Abu Graib
Afghanistan
Gittmo
Extraordinary Rendition
Just a few bad apples, everywhere.
Posted by: Ugh | March 09, 2005 at 12:07 PM
Do you think the use of the word "disappeared" is deliberately to recall the use of the same word to describe the victims of right-wing repressive governments & their death squads?
The technique of people just vanishing, fate unknown but imagined, has of course been used by many groups of differing ideologies but with similar attitudes, for examples see the book of Dr Zhivago, and refer to "Night and Fog".
Posted by: Epacris | March 09, 2005 at 12:22 PM
Exactly how is this worse than the average frat hazing?
Posted by: felixrayman | March 09, 2005 at 12:25 PM
And? If he were 70, then this would be OK?
Oh stop it. That's embarassing, nothing I wrote justifies that.
Posted by: Macallan | March 09, 2005 at 12:31 PM
"Exactly how is this worse than the average frat hazing?"
It might be the freezing to death part.
Posted by: Sebastian Holsclaw | March 09, 2005 at 12:34 PM
Oh stop it. That's embarassing, nothing I wrote justifies that.
It was a lead in question, not an accusation, Mac.
My overarching point was the value of empathy, not whether age justifies killing someone. Humanizing the victim here (via the only means we currently have, his youth) is important, IMO.
Posted by: Edward | March 09, 2005 at 12:36 PM
Pretty sure he was kidding.
Posted by: Ugh | March 09, 2005 at 12:36 PM
It's more than the freezing to death part though. If a frat hazing goes awry, those responsible don't get promotions.
Posted by: Edward | March 09, 2005 at 12:38 PM
Um, yeah I was kidding. Just pointing out that Rush Limbaugh still has a job, millions of listeners, and plenty of advertisers.
Posted by: felixrayman | March 09, 2005 at 12:39 PM
I agree that humanizing a victim has value, I don't agree that it needs to be done with dubious emotional appeals. How old was the "newly minted CIA case officer"? Is it important to humanize him with "youth"?
Most cops are in their 20's, most soldiers are in their late teens or early 20's, and I'd be willing to bet that at 29 a random Jihad Joe would be considered one of the old guys hanging out in the cave.
Posted by: Macallan | March 09, 2005 at 12:47 PM
I see your point Mac, but not it's purpose here. I'm not sure I care if the newly minted CIA case officer is young. He's not dead and can apparently expect a career in the CIA well into his twilight years. Humanizing the alleged criminal is fine at a trial, sure. Take him to trial and I'll care then.
Posted by: Edward | March 09, 2005 at 12:52 PM
But thank God, freedom is on theb march.
Posted by: NeoDude | March 09, 2005 at 12:52 PM
those responsible don't get promotions.
Is there any evidence that he was promoted because he was responsible for this incident? Or that those who promoted him were even aware of this incident?
Posted by: Macallan | March 09, 2005 at 12:52 PM
Its weird. I feel like I detect a note of surprise in you're post Edward. I don't think surprise is warranted. This stuff isn't news these days.
Really after Gonzales' appointment no reasonable person could have been surprised to discover that torture of captives who might be our enemies is the official policy of the United States Government.
Nothing to see here folks, move along.
Posted by: Frank | March 09, 2005 at 12:54 PM
Macallan: Or that those who promoted him were even aware of this incident?
If they weren't, they surely should have been.
Posted by: Jesurgislac | March 09, 2005 at 01:02 PM
no reasonable person could have been surprised to discover that torture of captives who might be our enemies is the official policy of the United States Government.
Very interesting. Since the official policy of the United States Government is that torture is illegal I would think that a reasonable person would be quite surprised.
Posted by: Macallan | March 09, 2005 at 01:04 PM
Very interesting. Since the official policy of the United States Government is that torture is illegal I would think that a reasonable person would be quite surprised.
Yes, let's quibble over the meaning of "official" in the context of Frank's comment.
Posted by: Ugh | March 09, 2005 at 01:08 PM
While I almost reflexively want to disagree Jesurgislac, I must agree that those who are responsible for promoting people who are involved in detaining alleged terrorists ought to be aware of one of his charges freezing to death.
Posted by: Sebastian Holsclaw | March 09, 2005 at 01:12 PM
If they weren't, they surely should have been.
Agreed. However, what bureaucracies "should" do, versus "how" they do things rarely seem to coincide.
Posted by: Macallan | March 09, 2005 at 01:17 PM
A few bad apples.
CIA torturer promoted rather than punished.
I guess they just want more bad apples.
Posted by: dmbeaster | March 09, 2005 at 01:35 PM
Mac- There is a difference between law and policy, that is why one is called law, and the other policy.
Sorry everyone. I just couldn't resist.
Posted by: Frank | March 09, 2005 at 02:19 PM
Since the official policy of the United States Government is that torture is illegal
Right now I think that, rhetoric notwithstanding, the policy is such that torture is de facto legal. I will change my mind when all those responsible are prosecuted.
Posted by: Bernard Yomtov | March 09, 2005 at 02:23 PM
Macallan: However, what bureaucracies "should" do, versus "how" they do things rarely seem to coincide.
True. It doesn't reflect well on the CIA either way: if they knew what he had done and promoted him, or if they didn't know what he had done because there was a cover-up. It's two separate issues, but neither one good.
Posted by: Jesurgislac | March 09, 2005 at 02:24 PM
It doesn't reflect well on the CIA either way
There is so much that doesn't reflect well on the CIA it is hard to know where to start.
Posted by: Macallan | March 09, 2005 at 02:28 PM
Edward asked at what point did Tenet or whomever start approving secret rendition programs...?
The New York Times reported March 6 that George W. Bush was the 'whomever' and that it was within days of the September 11 attacks. Before that rendition was approved on a case by case basis; Bush's directive gave blanket authorization. The OLC and other torture-related memos/opinions were intended to give legal cover for what happened to prisoners after rendition or during imprisonment in U.S.-run facilities.
I don't have the link, but the article is
March 6, 2005
Rule Change Lets C.I.A. Freely Send Suspects Abroad to Jails
By DOUGLAS JEHL and DAVID JOHNSTON
Posted by: Nell Lancaster | March 09, 2005 at 03:55 PM
20 isn't even legal age to drink in the states so I would say you're not fully an adult until you reach 21 and our government would seem to agree with me.
Posted by: Bill | March 09, 2005 at 05:35 PM
...unless it needs you to go, you know, fight a war somewhere.
"Too young to drink...but not too young to kill. Or die."
Posted by: CaseyL | March 09, 2005 at 08:06 PM
I'll repeat my earlier request, but does anyone know of a collection of all the torture information (from the OLC memos to articles on extraordinary rendition) anywhere (internet or not)?
Posted by: Ugh | March 09, 2005 at 09:20 PM
Very interesting. Since the official policy of the United States Government is that torture is illegal I would think that a reasonable person would be quite surprised.
You might have missed it, Mac, but there was quite a lengthy discussion on this very topic here and central to that discussion was the point that it's very easy to maintain that official policy when the officials get to redefine the term under consideration. [See, e.g., the "What we're doing can't be torture because the US government's official policy is that torture is illegal" argument.] I think a reasonable person would be quite surprised if the US government were to acknowledge that it was officially violating its own torture policy; I think you'd have a much harder time rebutting the actual contention, were you so inclined.
Posted by: Anarch | March 09, 2005 at 09:31 PM
Didn't miss it. Thanks though.
Posted by: Macallan | March 09, 2005 at 09:43 PM
Edward asked at what point did Tenet or whomever start approving secret rendition programs...?
Edward, that would have been during the Clinton Admin.
Posted by: Timmy the Wonder Dog | March 09, 2005 at 10:33 PM
Edward asked at what point did Tenet or whomever start approving secret rendition programs...?
I think that the right question to ask is, "At what point did the CIA stop acting as freelance criminals (supposedly on behalf of the United States)?"
Ever since the CIA was created it has been involved in criminal activity abroad and (apparently) at home. The laws written to control it are ignored. The obsession with secrecy keeps them from even noticing when their behavior is totally counterproductive. It has a history of making us hated and buying used information from people that a used car salesman would be embarrassed to associate with. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the United States would have been better off over the past 60 years if the CIA had never been created, yet we continue to 'reform' the CIA while letting them act like they are the Law, West of the Pecos.
I'm waiting for an article that tells me that the CIA didn't screw up a relationship, didn't foul up, didn't murder leaders, and actually managed to meet its goals.
Posted by: freelunch | March 09, 2005 at 10:44 PM
I'm waiting for an article that tells me that the CIA didn't screw up a relationship, didn't foul up, didn't murder leaders, and actually managed to meet its goals.
NPR had a newsbite yesterday about how we have very poor human intelligence in Iran -- that is, practically no US spies in Iran, which is supposed to be a head-scratcher since Iran's society should be a LOT easier to infilitrate than Iraq. Lots of travel in and out, etc. So that would be a case in point to support your statement.
(The newsbite went on to say that the US govt is getting most of its Iran intelligence from Iranian dissidents passing on "gossip" and a lot of "wishful thinking.")
Posted by: votermom | March 10, 2005 at 09:31 AM
Ugh asked does anyone know of a collection of all the torture information (from the OLC memos to articles on extraordinary rendition) anywhere (internet or not)?
There are several books out that collect different slices of the information. A January review in The Nation is a good overview, helpful in deciding which you might want to get hold of.
Posted by: Nell Lancaster | March 10, 2005 at 12:30 PM