If anyone is interested in the very tense situation going on regarding the vote in the Ukraine, I would suggest that Fistful of Euros is an excellent source for updates.
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Posted by: UWP | November 24, 2004 at 06:49 AM
I heard Lugar speak on it yesterday. It occurred to me if Republicans are so passionate about voter fraud in the Ukraine, maybe they should send Katherine Harris over to investigate because she certainly would know where to look.
Posted by: wilfred | November 24, 2004 at 10:12 AM
Wilfred, that did occur to me. ;-) But voter fraud is an important issue - whether it occurs in the Ukraine or the US, and whether the incumbent government and its supporters is interested in investigating it or not.
Posted by: Jesurgislac | November 24, 2004 at 10:18 AM
Jes, i'm being serious. We should send over (the pre-makeover) Harris and watch what happens.
Posted by: wilfred | November 24, 2004 at 01:32 PM
Very US centric dontcha think?
Posted by: Sebastian Holsclaw | November 24, 2004 at 04:59 PM
Of course it is Sebastian. I just have this habit of pointing the finger inward before i point it outward, glass houses and all. But then, Jes and i hate America or so the Neo's tell us.
Posted by: wilfred | November 24, 2004 at 07:29 PM
I don't mind. I just find it funny that the same people who constantly tell us that international relations aren't all about the US and what it wants tend to make it all about the US no matter what the actual context.
Posted by: Sebastian Holsclaw | November 25, 2004 at 11:50 AM
Sebastian, the point is we find it funny that you're setting yourself as pro-democracy in this thread, while you were anti-democracy/pro-terrorism in previous threads. It's not "all about the US": it's about the contrast between your support for democracy in the Ukraine, and your attack on democracy in Chile and Nicaragua. It's also ironically amusing that the Bush administration and it's supporters are pointing at exit polls in the Ukraine to prove that the election was fraudulent, while ignoring exit polls in the US and claiming they don't mean anything.
It's possible to find ironic amusement in virtually anything the Bush administration does, really.
Posted by: Jesurgislac | November 25, 2004 at 11:57 AM