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April 17, 2004

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Powell made similar observations about the First Gulf War, something about it not meeting all of the parameters of the Powell Doctrine.

It's a shame Colin Powell couldn't add that we would also be killing tens of thousands of civilian women and children and men to depose a man that UN Sanctions and no fly zones had already brought to his knees. But then again, maybe Powell did, it's not like they're going to share that with us. The neocons only release info that hurts their enemies (i.e. anyone who doesn't want him re-elected, that echo you're hearing is from the Nixon Administration). And they ran for the ticket on bringing 'truth' back to the White House. Give me a stained dress any day over World hatred of the US and the countless lives lost of innocents as well as soldiers. I would have Bush resign before he is impeached but the mere thought of a President Cheney ever in our history books makes me wish otherwise.

tens of thousands of civilian women and children and men must be confusing this conflict with a guy named Saddam.

Cool, Tim, you're starting to channel the president.

Nope Timmy, the villian in those deaths is US. Now that we both have blood on our hands it's hard to point the finger at the bad guy, as no one is wearing the white hat anymore. Saddam was awful but so now are we, and we should have known better. The majority of the rest of the world figured it out, why can't 50% of this country?

don't know how to link on this blog but this is a sad bit of news. Funny this fiction about us having a left leaning media, where we only now have Fox and Fox-lite on our major outlets.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1193948,00.html

Wilfred, you post a link using standard HTML on this blog:

{a href="URL"}text{/a}

where the {} are replaced by greater-than and less-than signs, aka "pointy brackets".

I would have Bush resign before he is impeached but the mere thought of a President Cheney ever in our history books makes me wish otherwise.

Perhaps Bush and Cheney could be impeached together: after all, Bush probably couldn't testify without Cheney along.

thanks for the link info. Ok, if you insist, we can impeach them together.

Continuing in the macabre vein, does anyone know the latest estimates for civilian casualties in Iraq over the past year?

The Iraq Body Count website says it's between 8875 and 10725. Their database, though, ends on 28 March, and references no deaths in Falluja, yet.

In answer to the humanitarion justification of this war I want to point to this part of the Human Right Watch organizations World Report 2004. It states a.o.: "In sum, the invasion of Iraq failed to meet the test for a humanitarian intervention. Most important, the killing in Iraq at the time was not of the exceptional nature that would justify such intervention. In addition, intervention was not the last reasonable option to stop Iraqi atrocities. Intervention was not motivated primarily by humanitarian concerns. It was not conducted in a way that maximized compliance with international humanitarian law. It was not approved by the Security Council. And while at the time it was launched it was reasonable to believe that the Iraqi people would be better off, it was not designed or carried out with the needs of Iraqis foremost in mind."

not designed or carried out with the needs of Iraqis foremost in mind

In a nutshell that is the issue.

"Wilfred, you post a link using standard HTML on this blog:"

BTW, if there's a TypePad user who has figured out how to put "How to HTMLize text" instructions just below the "Post a comment" text above, I'd love to hear about it.

"BTW, if there's a TypePad user who has figured out how to put "How to HTMLize text" instructions just below the "Post a comment" text above, I'd love to hear about it."

Well, Billmon at Whiskey Bar has a good set of instructions, if you are talking to him. Don't have a clue as to what he uses though

"...but from a source very close to Powell, I've known for some time he had no intention of serving in a second Bush administration (despite his insisting otherwise publically)."

I relied on all the newspapers and newsmagazines that reported this more than a year ago, myself.

Well that explains what this was about:

http://www.murmurs.com/talk/showthread.php?s=35e7959a6d5ce3a2a83c3536c703f0e4&t=67356&page=4&pp=15

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