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April 22, 2018

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How do we change that, so that the wealth that is created in this country gets spread around more evenly.

One thing we shouldn't do is, of course what the Trump administration is allowing, to create racially discriminatory effects in public programs.

Let's talk about that spreading the money around thing.

I AM IN!!!!! You have any? ;)

I know bobm has a honed sneer for the Jonathan Chaits of the world, and Chait has been hippie punching for decades.

THAT is what I would like to see stop.

The country is sorting out into more or less definable ideological groups....like it or not.

Go with the flow. Pick a side. Like the old Wall St. adage: Bulls make money. Bears make money. Pigs get slaughtered.

The Dem Party, as actually constituted, is further left today then it has been since the 60's. The Green Party, as actually constituted, is a sick joke.

The GOP is well down the ethno-nationalist aggrieved white power road.

Currently, the Dems are going in the right direction. Fer christ's sake, there is widespread discussion about 'medicare for all', free university education, universal child care, UBI, jobs guarantee....holy shitsky, batman.

Let's push them to go further.

The food is better"?
"Beautiful houses are being renovated?"

It's like everyplace is freaking Park Slope.

Or like lots of places in large cities are similar to Park Slope. Even Fishtown in Philly's getting to be ... well ... nice! That place was a dump 20 years ago.

Proximity to cities, for that matter, has bugger-all to do with it.

Being within cities has something to do with it. The difference on your by-county Gini Index map between cities and the other dark blue areas is that the cities stand out from their surroundings. You have high indices in larger swaths in poor parts of the country, but the counties don't stand out much relative to the others around them. On the other hand, I can say, "Oh, there's Cleveland. There's Seattle. There's Pittsburgh. There's San Fran. There's Minneapolis."

If you want to solve inequality, the solutions might be different in different places with different dynamics.

That aside, if the article was anything, it was Clinton-bashing more so than a general take-down of liberal coastal elites. There was little mention of urban people generally looking down on rural America (or eating arugula). This was about it (emphasis mine):

What’s striking about Clinton’s remarks is that she seems to be connecting the wealth of the places she won to the character of the people living in them. Granted, this is hardly the first time someone has posited that America’s richer regions are more virtuous or praiseworthy than its poorer regions. Such attitudes have long been commonplace among the residents of richer regions.

The thing about it for me is that the points Reihan Salam (who I admit comes off like an a$$hole to me most of the time) is making is that they're not really anything like the crap that Trump and his base are always whining about.

Where are the "real Americans"? Where are the "traditional values"? Where's the "hard work" and "personal responsibility" and "taking care of families"? (All those things they claim to be theirs.)

That's the culture-war crap that goes up my keester. The stuff wonkie wrote a great comment on not long ago (which I might take the time to find).

One thing we shouldn't do is, of course what the Trump administration is allowing

The list of things we shouldn't do that Trump is allowing is bigger than my head can hold.

I AM IN!!!!! You have any? ;)

LOL

Most of what I got goes to the bank to pay off my mortgage, so I can retire before I get too old to learn to play Ornithology and Giant Steps.

:)

, more than they will ever be able to make use of in any way that will make a meaningful difference in their own lives.

That wealth isn't being wasted. It's mostly invested to create more wealth for them and a lot of other people.

There's no way Bill Gates could or would want to spend all his wealth on himself and his family. But he's spending big chunks of it in efforts to make other people's lives better. He doesn't always get it right but he's having a net positive affect on the world.

And his personal wealth is a small fraction of the overall wealth his company has created.

There's no way Bill Gates could or would want to spend all his wealth on himself and his family. But he's spending big chunks of it in efforts to make other people's lives better. He doesn't always get it right but he's having a net positive affect on the world.

Gates? Yes. Buffett? Yes.

Koch brothers? Mercers? etc. Not so much. They are spending their money in order to (to be generous) make people's lives better by their own lights. But having a net positive effect on the world? Not that I can see.

But what's ironic (maybe) about this quote:

What’s striking about Clinton’s remarks is that she seems to be connecting the wealth of the places she won to the character of the people living in them. Granted, this is hardly the first time someone has posited that America’s richer regions are more virtuous or praiseworthy than its poorer regions. Such attitudes have long been commonplace among the residents of richer regions.

is that it's traditionally been a view more common among Republicans (what might be referred to as "Country Club Republicans" - Mitt Romney's people, perhaps).

That wealth isn't being wasted. It's mostly invested to create more wealth for them and a lot of few other people.

Fixed.

There's no way Bill Gates could or would want to spend all his wealth on himself and his family. But he's spending big chunks of it in efforts to make other people's lives better.

Bill Gates is a representative example of what number of people? (Also, too, he doesn't work in the FIRE sector. Bonus points for that.)

There's no way Bill Gates could or would want to spend all his wealth on himself and his family.

There is no way that Bill Gates should have been allowed to corner that much claim of our common future output (i.e., wealth).

Furthermore, as things are now, Bill Gates, not US gets to decide, all by himself, at his whims, what to do with it.

And the commons dies.

So we need to change the rules, hone down the inequalities.

If Bill had stopped at a billion the world would be a better place.

New York City!!!???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooPBXfnIpYI


Arugula!!!??? Grown soon in .... Abilene, Texas??!!! .. too.

https://www.brightfarms.com/grow-local/

You got to fly over the rural arugula farms in California and elsewhere. Planes don't land there.

http://www.growingproduce.com/vegetables/2014-top-25-vegetable-growers-west/

The entire "flyover country", "coastal elites" "political correctness", "city slicker" playbook is poisoned manure covering every square inch of the country ten feet deep from coast to coast and emitted by the conservative manure movement, located in your major metropolitan areas, to spread their fake news political e coli into the gut of every dupe and rube, regardless of location, out there.

If you think this New Yorker cartoon is solely making fun of the out-of-towner tourints, then you've been skipping the arugula and dining on America's main course of lying republican pig manure at the source.

https://condenaststore.com/featured/and-coming-up-on-the-right-joe-dator.html

That tour bus guide was probably born and raised in Iowa.

Like Mickey Mantle, she went where the lights were brightest. Cause she's probably good at something and didn't want to end up playing Double-A ball.

Maybe she'll move back to Iowa and start an arugula farm and make a mint. What are cracker conservatives, who know how to do nothing but pay others nothing to grow cotton, going to call her.

The cartoonist, Joe Dator, was born and raised in the Bronx.

Go ahead, tell a guy from the Bronx he's an arugula-eating, coastal elitist.

Start running before you tell him. Drop the latte before you start running, snowflakes.


I take my arugula straight, no chaser.

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