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August 10, 2017

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No matter how gender neutral you raise children, you're never going to get a 50/50 representation in STEM.

I don't mean that women on average are less qualified than men for STEM careers. But that, if you allow women to freely choose their careers, you're unlikely to reach a 50/50 representation. To get that balance, you're going to have limit somebody's choices.

But that, if you allow women to freely choose their careers...

If you hand wave a little harder, Charles, you just might be able to fly.

But that, if you allow women to freely choose their careers, you're unlikely to reach a 50/50 representation.

[citation required]

But that, if you allow women to freely choose their careers, you're unlikely to reach a 50/50 representation.

[relevance required]

Hint: Google's ratio was 4:1 favoring males. Last I checked, there were a bunch of numbers between 20 and 50.

You might increase female representation if you delayed puberty a few years

I mean if puberty were delayed for girls a few years.

At puberty girls move from self-confidence to self-consciousness. At this point they start to censor themselves and become increasingly silent in class. They deny their intelligence. 31% of girls in elementary school say they are good at math. In middle school that number drops to 18%. The greatest drop occurs among the brightest girls.
Girls and science: why the gender gap exists and what to do about it: Study finds 15-year-old girls outperform their male counterparts around the world – except in the US, Britain and Canada

It's also worth noting that Google is currently looking at a class action suit for seriously underpaying the women who work for them. The department of labor is in their grill.

Attorneys cost money.

Damore / Danmore / Dunmore / man of a thousand last name spellings stuck his foot in it. He's attracting attention Google does not need right now. The predictable outcome occurred.

It will take savage violence to get him out of there

Here is my suggestion:

Invent by congressional fiat a new office - President Emeritus. It can be part of Cheney's fourth branch of government.

Build a beautiful house. Made of gold, or at least gold-ish. It will be a very very good house, the best house. That is where President Emeritus gets to live.

The responsibilities of President Emeritus will be to hold rallies, fleece people who are staying in hotel properties owned by the feds, and maintain constant communication with the American public via social media and reality TV.

And play golf.

Plus, he gets a cool crown. And an unlimited lifetime supply of hair care product.

Offer Trump an offer he can't refuse: President Emeritus, or a complete and thorough financial audit.

Then move on.

Pence will promote exactly zero policies that I'd be happy with, but at least somebody, somewhere, would get something done, some of the time.

There's always 2018, and then 2020.

I mean if puberty were delayed for girls a few years.

At puberty girls move from self-confidence to self-consciousness. At this point they start to censor themselves and become increasingly silent in class. They deny their intelligence.

Of course you meant that. The second paragraph reports something so well-known that it is barely worth stating. The explanation for this is the point. Girls report that they censor themselves because boys don't like smart women.

I have this recurring thought that one day Trump will be at a presser pull off his hair and some facial prosthetics to reveal he's Andy Kaufman

The second paragraph reports something so well-known that it is barely worth stating. The explanation for this is the point.

GftNC, I know you live in the UK and my not know much about American baseball, but there is a phenomenon whereby the average daily temperature is higher for those days of the year when professional baseball is being played than for those days when it is not.

Draw from that whatever conclusion you like, but I think it's pretty obvious that the playing of professional baseball makes the United States warmer.

I think it's pretty obvious that the playing of professional baseball makes the United States warmer.

No enough pirates. That's the reason for it all.

No enough pirates. That's the reason for it all.

Not even in Pittsburgh? That would suggest that there will never be enough....

russell, bte that was a perfectly accurate description pf my insurance situation. FWIW, several of us combined those consulting gigs into one company so we would qualify for group insurance coverage. So better for now.

So better for now.

Cool. Glad you found a way to make it work, or at least work better.

Best of luck with the consulting company!

Morning, just dropping back in to apologize to Marty about doubting his life experience and I'm glad your insurance situation is better.

lj, all good

Girl from the North Country -- in case you see this...I finally got Ghost Riders from inter-library loan. Looking forward to it!

And play golf.

How do I apply? Sign me up. Keep the gold.

Best Regards,

Scott Pruitt is a cold-blooded murderer.

He has the full approval and blessing of the American Christian God, the androgynous Mammon, sporting the body of Dagny Taggart, the head of Alex Keaton, the trigger finger of Yosemite Sam, and the askew hairpiece of rumpelstildead.

Pruitt, like nearly all of rump's chosen, is killing as we speak.

Pence gazes down at Pruitt with the serene condescension of the fallen angel Lucifer, jacking off, without touching himself, at the sight of the lucre filling the pigfucking Christian offering plates and delighting at the misery and horror of the sacrificial lambs.

Vengeance will be mine.

I approached Mordor today, inching along the barricades beginning two blocks from Rump Rower. The issuer of encyclicals stipulating that all creatures entering Sauron's Orc-infested environs must speak the language of Sauron sat silently somewhere high above taking a dump into a fool's gold chalice, the reliquary turds later examined for worms and whisked away for curation in the recently citizens United-financed wing of the rumpsonian museum in Washington D.C. devoted to America's new manifest destiny social justice futurerama entitled "Eat Shit and Like It" .

The uniformed constabulary officer blocking my way was Asian and explained in barely understandable English that I was forbidden from proceeding on my mission.

I took some comfort in the fact that the fat tub of arrogant lard tucking into a taco bowl far overhead would deport that cop before he got around to killing me.

Kenyan witch doctor Barack Obama tweeted so sweetly recently that he toted up the most likes of any tweeter since Neil Armstrong's one small step for mankind.

Rump and his racist minions, who number in the tens of millions, quickly measured their dicks, came up short, and abolished Twitter in a volcanic rage.


Great, JanieM, I'll look forward to hearing how you liked it. Meanwhile, I've been re-reading the Goblin Emperor for the first time - it's good in difficult times!

GFTNC

I know you are not a baseball fan, but I wanted to pass along to you that I just learned the Chicago Cubs have a player named John Jay on their roster, and in the tradition of the baseball nick-naming tradition he is known as Chief Justice John Jay by his teammates and opponents.

Not hated by some quite as much as his namesake, but a pesky hitter who drives the other teams to distraction.

Thanks Count. I was entertained by stories of your trip - I wish I was in NYC, but not in August!

If you want to upchuck into your Cheerios this morning, pop over to Kevin Drum's place and read the post entitled "Steve Bannon: Fighting Racism Is For Losers"

Some may have a point that social justice warriors are over the top, but if they cut the head(s) off of the Republican Party, and toss it on the same bonfire as Robert E. Lee's statue, than they will have served a purpose.

The Republican Party has permitted rank vermin racism and white nationalism to rise to the top of its leadership and inhabit the White House, and governmental institutions. Until I get a fucking explanation how that was permitted to happen, I'm not to waste my breath apologizing for snowflakes who form mobs.

These filth idolize the Civil War traitors.

They aren't going away unless it's feet first with a toe tag to identify their disfigured remains.

Back on the road today. Have a good one.

(via BJ)

Hillary Clinton, August 2016:

“This is what I want to make clear today,” Clinton said, flanked by American flags at Truckee Meadows Community College. “A man with a long history of racial discrimination, who traffics in dark conspiracy theories drawn from the pages of supermarket tabloids and the far reaches of the Internet, should never run our government or command our military.”

She added: “He says he wants to make America great again, but, more and more, it seems his real message is Make America Hate Again.”

so many emails.

When I realized that healthcare wasn't going to pass I just looked at the bright side, Hillary Clinton could be President.

what a hell on earth that would have been

without the pussy-grabbing, daughter-luster, idiot-in-chief, "conservatives" would still have to pretend to care about all the things they used to pretend to care about.

i'm sure that's very hard on their souls.

Well, these days liberals can look on the (relatively!) bright side. There are all kinds of things that they would utterly hate, which would likely be being passed with anyone but Trump in the White House.**

It might be a price they would be glad to pay, of course. But then again, it might not. At minimum, a hard choice for them.

** Not to mention that Trump may be tarnishing the Republican (and, with much less justification, the conservative) brand for some time to come.

I suspect that many people, I know it's true for me, think Democrats could actually gain something from all this if they would quit bringing up Hillary.

Every time I see "so many emails" I shrug and think yeah, that was a crappy choice too.

She's the second or third most disliked politician in America, do you really want to keep bringing her up?

It's not like him being him is going to suddenly make her look good.

why? because 90% of the case against her was pure horseshit.

and now, because people treated the election like a goddamned game, we have a dangerous lunatic in the WH. and it remains the fault of everyone who spread or bought that horseshit.

Have some cheese......

Cleek, but isn't the point to do well in the future? However unfair, etc. last year was, it's done. Seems more constructive to look forward instead.

Based on my own personal anecdotal survey of people I know, personally, who really really really dislike Hilary Clinton, I have formed the opinion that hatred of Clinton is strongly correlated with childhood experiences with an overly strict nanny or grade school teacher.

She seems, to these people, like a scold. It triggers deep unresolved youthful traumas.

I suggest counseling.

It's not like him being him is going to suddenly make her look good.

The guy who's coming out of all of this smelling like a rose is Lindsey Graham.

Hey, look! A (R) who isn't a racist, god-bothering theocrat, or completely in the pocket of the Koch brothers!

It's like reaching into a pile of sh*t and finding a shiny new nickel.

When the pickings are slim, you take what you can get.

Cleek, but isn't the point to do well in the future?

one needs to know what one did wrong in order to do better, yes?

Russell, that may be true for those who "really really really dislike" her. But I can testify that it is entirely possible to dislike her on a less fervent level without having that kind of background, or anything like it.

Of course, I considered voting for her to be a complete no-brainer, considering the alternative. But I would far rather have seen a different Democrat on offer; and, obviously, a different Republican as well. But we had the choice we had.

I should perhaps clarify that that's "dislike as a person" (admittedly based only on what was visible in public situations). Entirely separate from my opinions on her stances on the issues.

And voting for her was a no-brainer based both on her and Trump as human beings and on their positions on the issues. No matter how much I disagreed with Clinton on some things.

one needs to know what one did wrong in order to do better, yes?

Sure. But one can recognize past mistakes without harping on them. Just say "OK, don't do that next time" and move on; not bring it up repeatedly.

It was a strange moment of triumph against racism: The gun-slinging white supremacist Craig Cobb, dressed up for daytime TV in a dark suit and red tie, hearing that his DNA testing revealed his ancestry to be only “86% European, and … 14% Sub-Saharan African.”
White nationalists are flocking to genetic ancestry tests — but many don't like their results

Just say "OK, don't do that next time" and move on; not bring it up repeatedly.

as you wish

it is entirely possible to dislike her on a less fervent level

I'm sure that's so. She's not my favoritest person ever, either. Neither is hubby Bill.

But I've been watching this show for twenty five years now.

People don't just hate the Clintons, they think they are Mr and Mrs Antichrist. Kang and Kodos. World-historically evil.

I find that delusional. Not as a matter of blog-drive-by hyperbole, but as a matter of plain fact.

Barking mad. Clinical. Out of their freaking gourds.

Pedophile ring in the back room of a pizza joint. Right? We're not talking policy differences here.

It's insane. Delusionally, obsessively insane.

"It was a strange moment of triumph against racism: The gun-slinging white supremacist Craig Cobb, dressed up for daytime TV in a dark suit and red tie, hearing that his DNA testing revealed his ancestry to be only “86% European, and … 14% Sub-Saharan African.”

So he shot his leg off just below the knee, figuring that was the 14% and his obligation to the gun control discussion.

Charles, since many of these are the same people who cheerfully reject climate change, evolution, etc., can it be surprising that their reaction to these unhappy (from their point of view) results is to abruptly start questioning the validity of genetic testing? Amusing, when they had been intending to use the previously-accepted-as-valid tests to prove their "purity". But not surprising.

I admit, I was startled by something in my own results (my siblings gave me a test for my birthday last year). But mostly, for me, it was a matter of speculating which of my grandparents' ancestry was not what I had thought. Then again, I'm not the stuff that white supremacists are made of. ;-)

As someone who has been accused of being in love with Hillary Clinton, I would like to state that I was, at first, not excited to know that she was the 2016 front-runner for the nomination. The more I actually listened to her though, the happier about it I was. I actually grew quite fond of her based on the fact that she was so serious about policy and had a life-long commitment to learning about how to make things better.

I didn't ever expect perfection, maybe because I haven't seen it yet, even in my closest friends. Obama was quite close to perfect (as a President), but he is a once in a lifetime find.

We're not going to repeat the 2016 election, so the hatred of Hillary itself, while distasteful to me, is irrelevant. People might want to do a bit of soul searching though to figure out what about her they hated so much, and whether they're going to be similarly tempted to dismiss a smart, competent candidate, and allow the election of a dangerous, evil clown next time around.

(Of course they will, if TAX CUT!)

The choice to vote for Clinton was easy for me because I have a comfortable middle class life, so "change" was not a big motivator for me, and I live in a swing state, so a protest vote seemed irresponsible given the stakes.

I'm personally aware of deranged anti-Clinton voters, but those folks are not likely to vote Dem anyway. HRC completely missed the populist wave. We can talk about her negatives, but she ran against someone with huge negatives. The difference being she was (rightfully) seen as establishment at a time when that was hugely unpopular in key swing states.

People might want to do a bit of soul searching though to figure out what about her they hated so much

I have nothing to add to this.

Not tax cut, supreme court justice. Hundreds of federal lifetime judge ships, and thousands of executive regulations. Tax cuts are a pipe dream. Both sides want to spend more just on different things.

But hope springs eternal.

I read that yesterday, CharlesWT. What got me thinking was how white nationalists might view ancestry from particular regions in Europe and other places outside of Europe that are generally still considered "white" (or at least Caucasian, if one sees a difference).

It's pretty obvious that they aren't happy with sub-Saharan African DNA. One would guess they aren't happy with East Asian or Pacific Islander DNA. I'm kind of up in the air on Native American, only because so many people seem to think just a bit of that (but not too much!) makes them somehow more truly "American."

Outside of Europe, but still arguably "white," they probably aren't too keen on Middle Eastern, North African, or South Asian. Caucasus, only because it's where the word "Caucasian" comes from, they might be okay with, or at least less bothered by.

Within Europe, Jewish is probably the worst for them. What about Southern and Eastern European? Are they acceptable?

Western European, British (broadly speaking, nowadays including Irish), and Scandinavian are probably what they're really hoping for. But very, very few people aren't going to get some results outside of those, regardless of where in Europe their more recent (say, last 500 yrs or so) ancestors came from.

Purity is a myth. Maybe they'll just say you have to be white enough, so long as you're fiercely proud of it.

...I would like to state that I was, at first, not excited to know that she was the 2016 front-runner for the nomination. The more I actually listened to her though, the happier about it I was. I actually grew quite fond of her based on the fact that she was so serious about policy and had a life-long commitment to learning about how to make things better.

That's pretty much my story, too.

Asked during his news conference in Trump Tower whether he would put white supremacists and neo-Nazis on the same “moral plane” as their liberal and leftist resisters, a frustrated Mr. Trump replied, “I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane.”

Do you think he thought they meant an airplane? Because that's the only way this reply makes any sense....

For 50 years now, the Democrats have seemingly failed to notice that Democratic candidates from the NE urban corridor fail to generate any real enthusiasm in much of the rest of the country. Perhaps longer: it's at least arguable that Kennedy's surprise choice of Johnson for VP, who had been favored by southern states at the national convention, won the 1960 election. The West seems to be becoming reliably (D)*, but is still not enthusiastic about "easterners".

* In November, the Census Bureau's western region went for Clinton in the EC 98-30. That's more Clinton EC votes than from any of the other three regions (Northeast, Midwest, South). The region also flipped control of four state legislative chambers from (R) to (D).

The West seems to be becoming reliably (D)*, but is still not enthusiastic about "easterners".

Yeah, everybody hates us, we're a bunch of snotty know-it-alls.

Run some of your guys.

sapient: People might want to do a bit of soul searching though to figure out what about her they hated so much, and whether they're going to be similarly tempted to dismiss a smart, competent candidate, and allow the election of a dangerous, evil clown next time around.

(Of course they will, if TAX CUT!)

I think Marty's right. For the vast majority of the actual voters, it really isn't about tax cuts. At all. For the big donors, and a few ideologues, tax cuts matter. But the folks doing the voting aren't going to see any change (or, if they do, not for the better).

Which is why those who do care about tax cuts put so much effort into talking about other things. Things that, frankly, they don't care about. Or even dislike, sometimes rather strongly . . . just not as much as they like tax cuts.

Jerry Brown with a few cardiac stem cell injections for president!

2nd link:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/health/cardiac-stem-cells-make-rats-younger-study/

Cardiac stem cells make rats younger

A boom for politicians then...

Millennials: "Damn! We'll never be rid of those baby boomers!"

And since it's been tested in rats, and we're talking politicians, no need for additional trials using humans.... ;-)

Run some of your guys.

With tongue only partly in cheek, and intending no offense to anyone, the best and brightest in the West appear to be losing interest.

On a bet a few months ago, after four days of typical Trump-related excitement, I bet a friend that of seven leading newspapers from the big metro areas in the West, no more than two would lead with a Trump-related story on Friday morning. Turned out to be only one, and even that one was something older but related to western issues.

Dem caucus rules in Congress require holding a seat for a very long time in order to get any real authority. My six-term (D) Representative is not running again; local rumors are that he's simply tired of not living in Colorado and doing the semi-commute for such a small role. (I've done the semi-commute; it's miserable even if you get to fly first class.) The five-term (D) Representative from a district over is running for governor in 2018 instead. IIRC, blacks are not the largest minority in any western state and there seems little interest in fighting the Civil War yet again.

I'm willing to take a bet: Kamala Harris will use her Senate seat to set up a run for Governor of California, but not for President.

the best and brightest in the West appear to be losing interest.

That's a damned shame.

The only thing I'd say in addition is, if your guys don't want to do the work to make it better, please don't complain about the folks that do.

I'm willing to take a bet: Kamala Harris will use her Senate seat to set up a run for Governor of California, but not for President.

I'd prefer to bet that she will run for Governor on the way to running for President. While experience in the Senate helps in knowing how to get things thru Congress, Governor is a lot stronger platform to run for President from.

The only thing I'd say in addition is, if your guys don't want to do the work to make it better, please don't complain about the folks that do.

I'm only complaining that the definition of "better" is biased in ways that it need not be. Of course, I'm the guy whose thesis is that by about Jan 1, 2060, what we think won't be your problem any more :^)

Selecting Hillary Clinton as a candidate was a terrible mistake by the Democrats. That ought to be unarguable - she LOST to Donald Trump.

The problem with her as a candidate was that she's just not likeable enough on TV. Nor is Trump of course, but he was running a different sort of campaign. The comparison is with Obama, Bush 2, or Reagan. If you're not willing to run as a demagogue, you have to have a winning smile.

Even if elected, she would have been an ineffectual president, because she would have been able to get nothing through the legislature, howsoever well thought out. She would have stopped the Republicans stealing the Supreme Court, but that's all. Unlike Obama, she wouldn't have had the option of making an effective appeal directly to the electorate. So the Democrats would have lost badly in 2018 and 2020.

The Democrats ought to be working out what went right when they selected Obama, and what went wrong when they selected Hillary. The obvious difference is that with Hillary, the party's thumb on the scales proved decisive, and may have deterred better candidates from even entering the race.

The Democrats need to reform the rules to give candidates a fair chance even if they don't have great name recognition or insider connexions. (So do the Republicans.) They've had no success running brothers, sons and spouses of party leaders. It's time to tilt the primary process the other way.

I'm only complaining that the definition of "better" is biased in ways that it need not be

I hear you. I'm not actually that invested in my own personal definition of "better", I would be highly interested in what folks in other parts of the country think.

I do, or would, find it regrettable if folks from other parts of the country who could have something constructive to offer would simply decide to opt out, for whatever reason. I can imagine about 100 reasons, or maybe a million, but it still seems regrettable to me.

I agree that one way we might end up sorting out our regional and cultural differences (maybe those are the same thing?) would be to carve the country up into separate, more or less sovereign regions. Perhaps actual independent countries.

It would make some things a hell of a lot easier, but would also be kind of a shame.

It cost a lot to create this place, I'd be sorry to see it go. Everything does, sooner or later, but still.

Selecting Hillary Clinton as a candidate was a terrible mistake by the Democrats.

I sort of hear what you're saying, but I'm hard pressed to say who would have run a better campaign, or been a better candidate, or done better against Trump.

Who, instead of Clinton? Bernie? Uncle Joe?

Allow also me to note in passing, lest we forget, that ten million more people voted against Trump than for him.

In a reasonable nation, Clinton would have been a totally uncontroversial candidate. It's the reasonable nation part that is the problem IMO.

People were pissed off, so they decided to burn the place down. Mission accomplished. You can blame it on Clinton's negatives if you like, I'd say there were plenty of places to place blame.

Start with the folks who voted for Trump.

Clinton was the victim of decades of defamation by the righwing adn she started out with a disa[proval rating of nearly fifty percent That disapproval rating was not fair to her; it was the result of a successsful smear campaign, however it it existed and because of it I did not think she should be our candidate. I think Bernie would have won.

But what diferenec does it make? The only less he is that we need to find more effective ways to counger Republican hatemongering.

My six-term (D) Representative is not running again; local rumors are that he's simply tired of not living in Colorado and doing the semi-commute for such a small role. (I've done the semi-commute; it's miserable even if you get to fly first class.) The five-term (D) Representative from a district over is running for governor in 2018 instead.

Not sure what the situation is there - are the districts solidly D? If not, I wish I could summon the tears. At this moment in history (assuming they think they can continue to carry the district), I'm appalled. If they have a reasonable successor, good for them.

I think Bernie would have won.

I almost always agree with you wonkie, but not on this. I think he wouldn't have won (and he didn't deserve to win the primary). People like Russ Feingold didn't win. The problem was in a few swing states (like WI, where Feingold lost) where people like NV were careless with their vote, thinking that it was so emo to play games, or that purism was the way to go.

I would have voted for Bernie, because I'm a good do bee, and I fall in line. Lots of people saw Bernie's program theories as a fraud (and I did too, but would have voted for him anyway because he might have headed things into a decent place as opposed to Trump). Tad Devine and Jeff Weaver are both very questionable characters. Creepy as hell. Bernie's wife has baggage galore (and not just recently). Hillary Clinton didn't run a negative campaign against Bernie, because she didn't want to alienate his base (maybe a bad move). There is likely plenty there. Start with his failure to release his tax returns. Sound familiar? Should be raising alarm bells everywhere.

That all said, Bernie's on the right side of the fence, and I'll definitely do what I do if I have to do it. Oh, and I liked Bernie a lot for quite awhile.

Not sure what the situation is there - are the districts solidly D?

The next district over is solidly D. My district has steadily become a solid D (in the 30 years I've lived here, it has moved Democratic to the tune of about seven percentage points).

I didn't like either Bernie (surely there were others who weren't going to put the (I) back behind their name as soon as they lost) or Hillary (too many unnecessary tone-deaf things over the years). But I voted for whoever had the (D) after their name in November, and urged others to do likewise, because post-2018 I wanted someone to protect me from a Republican Congress, where the real danger was/is. I have been pleasantly surprised by their incompetence, but really, really hate having to depend on it for sanity to prevail. Unfortunately, Pruitt and Zinke are doing their damnedest to screw the West via regulatory change.

Thanks, Michael Cain. I know you've been in the weeds in a way I can only imagine.

I think Bernie would have won.

So, the first thing I should say is I was very enthusiastic about Bernie. I appreciated his focus on populist economics, without the racist baggage. I sent Bernie $50 a month for a year.

The next two things I have to say about Bernie are:

1. I don't know if he would have won. The election would have been a very different kettle of fish, but I have no idea how it would have played out.

2. Assuming he won - what then?

In terms of political experience and smarts, capacity for basic effective executive function, and foreign policy exposure, Clinton was the best candidate. I.e., had, hands down, the best resume. By many, many, many miles.

People didn't like her. Unfortunately, the first job of POTUS is apparently to be Our National Pal. She even did the shot-and-a-beer thing when she was running for the (D) nomination in 2008, and that wasn't good enough.

So now we're fucked until further notice.

Hilarity ensues, no doubt.

I think I might be out of the country that day. Hope something's left when it's time to come back.

Insurance companies turning undocumented immigrants who file workers comp claims over to ICE for deportation.

Land of the free, y'all.

I'm sorry to say it, but I'm learning to despise my own country. And fellow-citizens. What a bunch of cheesy lame scumbags we're turning into.

The thing is, none of this is anything new. It keeps coming up, again and again. Our history is full of bullshit like this.

We make a little progress, then we piss it away. What a bunch of frightened little punk-ass bullies we are.

The folks who voted for Trump own this bullshit. I don't give a shit how "left behind" you feel, if you wish this kind of crap on other people you are a miserable excuse for a human being.

Everyone who voted for Trump needs to take a good long look in the mirror. This is what you asked for, and now you have it. If stuff like this makes you happy, you need to check your freaking head.

I will not forget this, ever. We are living through yet another shameful time in our nation's history. If that isn't clear to you, you need to wise up.

We suck right now. Shame on us.

I was listening to a piece on NPR this morning on the way to work. Apparently, as part of some kind of national campaign against the MS-13 gang, cops are following Hispanic high school kids around, looking for any clue that they might be involved.

The gang recruits school-age kids, so it's not a totally insane idea.

They saw some young woman in Brentwood NY talking to some kids that they thought were gang kids, so they picked her up. Held in in NJ for, like, a month.

They did very politely not put her in cuffs until they got her in the cop car. Nice guys.

The girl came here from El Salvador. Which is, like, MS-13 ground zero, apparently. She came here *to get the fuck away from MS-13*. She walked here. By herself. It took her a freaking month and a half.

She walked here. To this country. By herself. For a month and a half. To get away from the shambles MS-13 is making of her own country.

Fortunately she somehow got a good lawyer and, after being held with no charges in some god-damned holding joint in Jersey for a month, was returned to her family.

She doesn't want to go back to her high school. She's afraid they'll just come after her again for some bullshit or other.

The girl has an active application for legal residency in the works. She's not hiding. She's working the program.

She fucking walked here from El Salvador. By herself. It took her a month and a half.

Our fearful hysteria is bleeding us of every shred of human decency. It's fucked up. We need to wake the hell up and see if we can rescue some ounce of our common humanity.

We have fucking Nazis walking the streets in broad daylight, and the President can't even condemn it without reaching for some kind of "both sides do it" bullshit.

We need to decide what kind of people we want to be. If this is the kind of people we want to be, I want nothing to do with it. If I have to leave, I'll leave. If I have to get a fucking gun and fight this bullshit, I'll do that.

But this crap is shameful. It is despicable, bullying cowardice.

I despise it.

But this crap is shameful. It is despicable, bullying cowardice.

Something I can agree wholeheartedly with you on.

Pedophile ring in the back room of a pizza joint. Right? We're not talking policy differences here.

Wrong. In the basement of a pizza joint that had no basement.
It's like the subterranean network of tunnels that connects all WalMarts and is used by the Feds to invade Texas and to keep patriots prisoner in (before they get transferred to Mars as slave labor).

The folks who voted for Trump own this bullshit.

goddamned right.

on all of it.

FL GOP y'all.

Pediatricians say Florida hurt sick kids to help big GOP donors

Party of Life/Family Values.

we are ending our program of assistance to children fleeing violence in south and central america.

make america cruel again

cruelty now, cruelty tomorrow, cruelty forever.

The current GOP does not believe anyone who is a minority should be allowed to vote.

SCOTUS's Shelby County decision was horribly horribly wrong.

So were not a shining city on a hill? Or just one with a wall and a moat?

And a permanent underclass deliberately kept down by policy decisions at all levels of government

Redemption is possible, though:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/18/former-neo-nazi-charlottesville-terrifies-me-215502

i was promised Greatness.
where's the Greatness?

SCOTUS's Shelby County decision was horribly horribly wrong.

I was never quite clear whether they were just massively insulated from what was happening in the world outside their courtroom. Or just so devoted to ideology that they couldn't bring themselves to recognize it.

From Nigel's link:

I no longer trusted mainstream news—I read organization-approved news only, so I didn’t realize how removed from reality my perception of the world was.

(...)

But I started traveling for work more, going to new places, particularly in the South, meeting new people. Often, these people weren’t white, and more importantly, they didn’t know who I was. When I came back and re-entered my insulated social network, where my friends were surrounded by the same conspiracy theories I had once bought into, the shared delusions were a shock to me. What are you talking about, a race war? I thought. We’re not at war.

Today, I look at the factors that kept me in white supremacist movement, and I think they must be stronger than ever. My closed-off media sources and mail-order propaganda videos, music and literature were one thing in the early ‘90s; today, anyone with a smartphone can go down rabbit-holes watching hours and hours of YouTube videos with far-right personalities, from actual Hitler supporters to more lightweight figures like alt-right YouTuber Paul Joseph Watson, who peddle the same racial paranoia without the overt Nazi ideology, feeding viewers their sick spin on the news. On social media, it’s easy to find like minds halfway across the country who can affirm your worldview with likes and retweets.

Scary stuff. The is a more radical version of the widespread phenomenon of "conservative" media.

It reminds me of this:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/how-fox-news-made-my-dad-crazy

i've said it before: humans are just too dumb for the internet. we aren't great at telling fact from fiction and the internet is a great ocean of both. any dumb idea someone has, support can be found for it on the internet.

Redemption is possible

It's always possible. It's always readily available. Folks just have to recognize they need it, and then want to change.

Most stories I read of folks who have stepped away from these kinds of organizations make the change because they finally figure out that people who aren't like them aren't their enemy.

It's a hell of a lot harder to hate somebody when you're looking them in the eye.

here's a fun one: alt-Right/Nazi ties to Russia.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/18/1689526/-AFTER-CHARLOTTESVILLE-Seven-key-Nazis-and-their-links-to-Putin-amp-Trump

i'm always a bit wary of dKos stuff. but this seems well-sourced.

Most stories I read of folks who have stepped away from these kinds of organizations make the change because they finally figure out that people who aren't like them aren't their enemy.

It's a hell of a lot harder to hate somebody when you're looking them in the eye.

Witness the speed with which attitudes towards gays changed when people discovered family members and friends coming out of the closet.

I really think people miss the boat on the Shelby County decision.

Yes, it has allowed for some states to pursue nasty voter suppression measures, but I honestly think that is a reasonable price to pay to help end the insidious racial gerrymandering that the VRA allowed Republicans to implement in pre-clearance states. I have no doubt that without Shelby County, Corrine Brown would have gotten much farther in her efforts to thwart the application Florida's voter initiative constitutional amendment requiring sane voter districts.

Those new lines resulted in two extra seats for Dems in Congress from Florida based on the 2016 results.

I'm not downplaying the damage of these voter suppression measures, but at least they are out in the open and can be fought. Gerrymandering is such a wonky process that never generated outrage. In other words, I'd rather fight voter suppression than gerrymandering.

For those of you who doubt me on this, ask yourself the following: Why were Pubs reauthorizing the VRA pre-clearance rules with a rubber stamp every time it came up?

I was never quite clear whether they were just massively insulated from what was happening in the world outside their courtroom. Or just so devoted to ideology that they couldn't bring themselves to recognize it.

When you review decisions such as Sebilius, Hobby Lobby, and Shelby County it's pretty hard to see them as anything else but highly partisan, driven by their ideology.

For those of you who doubt me on this, ask yourself the following: Why were Pubs reauthorizing the VRA pre-clearance rules with a rubber stamp every time it came up?

Because they were aware they would take a pretty big political hit if they didn't. Shelby gave them the cover they needed.

My take is you have to fight both, but if minorities are effectively barred from voting, you're entering a fray with one hand tied behind your back.

Because they were aware they would take a pretty big political hit if they didn't. Shelby gave them the cover they needed.

My take is you have to fight both, but if minorities are effectively barred from voting, you're entering a fray with one hand tied behind your back.

Posted by: bobbyp | August 18, 2017 at 01:19 PM

I'm not aware of a recent example where a Pub has taken a political hit for voting against the voting rights of minorities. In fact, they tend to be rewarded for it politically.

Think about it. Section 5 of the VRA required jurisdictions with a history of racial discrimination, i.e., the South, i.e., Pub Country, to go through pre-clearance for their voting district maps. Why would Pubs subject their base to this? The answer is simple: the Justice Department would give pre-clearance to voting maps that included a "max-black"* district. In other words, the USDOJ was practically requiring southern Republican controlled states to pack black voters in one or more districts which resulted in the dilution of black voting power.

That's why Pubs rubber stamped reauthorization of the VRA every time it came up; not because they were worried about the optics of voting against the VRA. Hell, if the optics worried them so much, then they wouldn't be pushing voter suppression legislation now.

FWIW, I'm fine with the concept of fighting both, I just recognize that it is *much* harder to mobilize opposition to voting maps than voter suppression legislation. If I'm picking my battlefield, I'll go with voter suppression legislation.


* Not my term.

The biggest voter suppression is the felony convictions of minorities for victimless crimes.

Bannon's out. http://www.avclub.com/article/steve-bannon-leaving-white-house-spend-more-time-s-259642

i wish i thought this would matter. but i don't think it will. Trump doesn't look like he's ever been Bannon's puppet (no puppet! no puppet! you're the puppet); Trump is a perfectly rotten scumbag all on his own. nobody's making him say the crazy crap he says every day, and he's going to keep saying it.

It seems likely to matter only in that Bannon "knows where the bodies are buried." Which means, he could go beyond the interviews which were the proximate cause of his departure, and make things hot for various other people who are still at the White House.

The biggest voter suppression is the felony convictions of minorities for victimless crimes.

Posted by: CharlesWT | August 18, 2017 at 01:37 PM

I completely agree.

It also makes the unemployment numbers look better. Imagine how much bigger the unemployment gaps between racial/ethnic groups would be if the incarcerated were in the workforce denominator.

When John "lawless" Roberts has to completely ignore a relevant part of the Constitution (15th Amd., Section 2) and instead goes with using a justification based on the Confederate Constitution, it really doesn't matter whether he's 'isolated' or 'ideological'.

"Dishonest traitor to the constitution" covers it nicely, though.

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