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March 10, 2009

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Tuckerization is quite common among SF and comics fans (I am actually a Paramount Star Trek character.....), but I don't think it's as common among bloggers....

can you get a free copy out of it ?

I think the question is why does hilzoy take abullet in the brain? that's kind of creepy.

aimai

Gwangung, it seems like this is not so much an in joke as a way to get blog buzz for the book. Hilzoy has obliged. Will the other bloggers do the same?

best book ever!

I can only assume that the most lovable candidate is named Eric Martens or something.

You've hit the big time, Hilzoy!

I'll be happy so long as the bad guy doesn't own an attach chihuahua named "von."

Tuckerization is quite common ..

There's actually a word for this? Who knew? (besides gwangung)

One question, though: why does R. Hilzoy have to be a guy?

Because men are the default gender. Because if the first sentence of the book had been "The last thing Rachel Hilzoy thought before the bullet entered her brain was, Things are really looking up." - the question assumed raised to be answered would have been "Why is a woman being killed?" rather than "Why is R. Hilzoy being killed?"

Is Alex male or female? My guess is Alex is male, and that the writer believes this divests Alex's determination to figure out who killed R. Hilzoy, and why, of sexual subtext - which subtext would be presumed to exist if R. Hilzoy and Alex Pharyngula were of different genders. If both were female, the thriller might well be presumed to be a feminist thriller...

Hilzoy is a once-in-a-lifetime ticket" for Alex. Then suddenly he is dead, supposedly due to a drug deal. Alex believes none of that."

But, the ObWing Hive Mind knows the truth... the kitten did it.

What KCinDC said. Neat trick, though.

I'll be happy so long as the bad guy doesn't own an attach chihuahua named "von."

But I bet you'd love to be the bad guy, if he has all the good lines....

I don't blame von. I wouldn't want to be an attach dog, any breed. ;-)

Fwiw, I don't think it was a publicity thing. At least, if it was, I would have expected someone to email us about this. No one did. I was just doing a blog search to see whether anyone had written about my story from last night, and this popped up.

Hell, if it's a publicity thing, the guy deserves it. I'm just happy to think of something happier than the dreadful stories of toddlers dying in locked cars.

p.s. Beware the attach dog.

The last thing Richard Hilzoy thought before the bullet entered his brain was, Things are really looking up.

This is kind of a stretch, but the last thing the potted petunias thought before hitting the planet Slartibartfast worked on was "Oh, no, not again".

Of course, that was also the first thing.

Eisler's "Rain" books are very very good. (no, I'm not connected with Mr. Eisler in any way, other than as a reader/fan). I'd be flattered.

Hilzoy, I'm honored. Thank you.

KCinDC, you're right that I've named characters after some of my favorite bloggers in hopes of creating some buzz for the book; but more importantly, I'm hoping to create buzz for the blogs. I'm a pretty political guy, and if there's something I can do to expose a few more people to Hilzoy, Glenn Greenwald, Scott Horton, and others I admire, I'm delighted to do it. Also, naming characters after people I've learned from is just a way for me to say thanks (I also always call these folks out in the acknowledgements).

Aimai, as for the fictional Hilzoy being murdered, this is just a novel! I write about assassins and conspiracies and lots of characters get killed in my books, even characters named after people I like and admire. This was so much the case in my previous book, Requiem for an Assassin, that I felt it sensible to include the following disclaimer in the acknowledgements:

"Three men I count myself privileged to know have characters named after them in this book: Wim Demeere, Frank “Pancho” Garza, and Montie Guthrie. In addition to their names, the characters share some positive characteristics with their real-world namesakes. But the characters also have certain… negative characteristics, which are entirely fictional and have nothing to do with these gentlemen as I know them. I say this because I wouldn’t want anyone to mistakenly conclude that I hold Wim, Pancho, or Montie – friends and teachers all – in anything other than the highest regard. Plus, they might beat me up or shoot me if I didn’t provide a disclaimer. Special thanks to Montie, for always taking my calls about firearms tools and tactics, and for helpful comments on the manuscript. I hope it goes without saying that any firearms mistakes in the manuscript are entirely Montie’s fault."

Tuckerization! I guess this means it won't now be known as Hilzoyization. Well, I tried...

Jesurgislac, that's pretty much it. If a woman is killed in the opening chapter, it suggests a different type of story. Also, I conceived of the character before I named him.

And you bet Hilzoy gets a free copy! Everyone I name in the acknowledgments always does. Hilzoy, if you'd like, shoot me an email at nibanmei at mac.com and let me know where to send it. And hey, no pretending to be Hilzoy, anyone...

Thanks again for the kind mention -- I'm going to be grinning all day.

Cheers,
Barry

Congratulations. You have joined the ranks of "revenge by fictional character" along with the legendary Henry Carr.

Henry Carr was in Zurich during WWI, and came in contact with James Joyce. Joyce and Carr had a rather petty contretemps over a role Carr played in an amateur theatrical production Carr was in. (Details available around the web, but immortalized by Tom Stoppard in the play TRAVESTIES).

Joyce was so POed at Carr that he made him a drunken solider in the "Circe" episode of ULYSSES. You can look it up.

Dude, Eisler, I'm buttonholing you about this on Friday at Vromans, which I believe was a one time haunt of the historical Hilzoy.

Mr. Arthur, thanks for the kind words, and glad you've been enjoying the books.

Zmulls, I have to beg to differ. As I mention above, this is hardly a case of revenge; in fact, it's the opposite, and I'd be sad if it were misinterpreted otherwise. Not just because I wouldn't want anyone to think I hold Hilzoy in other than high regard, but also because I wouldn't want anyone to think I was so petty that I took out my frustrations by dissing people in my fiction. For example:

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/9341.html#more-9341

Cheers,
Barry

LOL! Ara, I'm looking forward to it.

Dear Barry,

Just teasing you! I've read all your John Rain books. I enjoyed them very much.

aimai

I think Jes's above speculation is on to something.
The critical question, I guess, is whether The Voice Of Moderation gets an appearance.

Hm. No one mentioned the meticulous if long-winded sidekick, Dr. Farber.

It sounds like hilzoy ended up in the redshirting subset of Tuckerization.

Congratulations, I think.

... the kitten did it.

Does the kitten have a name?

Barry, you've talking me into picking up a copy.

It sounds like hilzoy ended up in the redshirting subset of Tuckerization.

Heh. I WAS a redshirt...and managed to survive....

Vromans! A wonderful bookstore. I wish we had one here.

And Barry: too late, I already ordered a copy. I mean, if I'm going to be redshirted, I figured I might as well have proof. ;)

"Tuckerization is quite common among SF and comics fans"

I'm constantly surprised at how widespread fannish memes have become in the 21st century.

"There's actually a word for this? Who knew? (besides gwangung)"

Me, since approximately 1971. Bob Tucker. Hung out and smmooooothed with him many times. He died shortly after his 90th birthday party.

I could tell you reams about the Tucker Hotel, natural inseminations performed cards, Wilson Tucker's novels, many subsequent adoptions of Tuckerizing, how Terry Carr got fired from Ace Books by Don Wollheim for allowing tuckerizing, and so on and so forth.

Turns out that, of course, there's a Wikipedia entry.

As well as quite a few hits via Google.

Awesome. I cant wait to read barry's newest book to see this. thats great that he tips his hat to others he has profound gratitude for. I need to have an eisler character or corporation in my book to pay honor to him. So proud of his career and his newest work. I guess i have a new blog to follow and stay current with.

Hilzoy, you now have to write a revenge novel where a guy named Sarry Eibler gets attacked by a rabid wolverine in the opening paragraph. It's only fair.

I'll be happy so long as the bad guy doesn't own an attach chihuahua named "von."

One of my friends asked for my permission to use my name for one of the characters in the novel she was writing. I, flattered, accepted.

Then I found out that she'd given my name to the dog.

More accurately: then I found out that she'd given my name to the dog who the protagonist -- named for another of our friends -- had sex with.

I've been wary of authorial generosity ever since.

Congratulations. You have joined the ranks of "revenge by fictional character" along with the legendary Henry Carr.

Or about half the characters in the Inferno. No-one got nothin' on Dante.

More accurately: then I found out that she'd given my name to the dog who the protagonist -- named for another of our friends -- had sex with.

Brings new meaning to "attach dog."

NICK: Putting on the dog, eh? Heh, heh, heh. Say, where are all the doggies?

NANCY: They've mysteriously disappeared...

NICK: Oh, yeah?

NANCY: Yes. I just told you. Along with the servants. They were very attached to one another.

NICK: Where?

NANCY: At the wrist and ankles.

The Further Adventures of Nick Danger

Does the kitten have a name?

Three. One sensible everyday name, one unique to the kitten, and one ineffable effable effanineffable deep and inscrutable singular Name.

Them's the rules.

Speaking of disappearances, McCavity's not there.

i'm going to buy a copy too - this behavior must be rewarded.

Barry Eisler: Jesurgislac, that's pretty much it. If a woman is killed in the opening chapter, it suggests a different type of story.

Feminist analysis FTW. ;-)

Lots of NPR names show up in NickToons...

Too cool.

"No one mentioned the meticulous if long-winded sidekick, Dr. Farber." Posted by: Anderson

Dude, you are so screwed now...


If the book gets turned into a Hollywood blockbuster, Hilzoy will have to googlebomb her name so she don't slip out of the first place.

I for one will buy the action figure.

Hmmmmm. Yes it is "a review" but it is my review. Would it have spoiled some vast eternal plan to credit it?

The last line of Hilzoy's novel, Some Vast Eternal Plan: "The last thing Gail Cooke thought before the iron entered her soul was, 'I didn't know the cake was loaded'".

Sorry if I spoiled it for anyone.

Gail Cooke: sorry. I normally take the link to be credit.

Much as I liked Gail Cooke's Sheldon Harnick reference, IMO Jes wins.

Oddly, I'm such a blog addict that I immediately wondered whether the title Fault Line wasn't a reference to Chris Clarke's blog.

Apology accepted and joyfully embraced. Now, I'm even sorry you were killed off in the first line. ;-)

Hey, at least Hilzoy showed up to get killed. I got redshirted en passant...

Things I wish I had written: "If Michelle Malkin moves any farther to the right, her eyes will start to migrate to the side of her head, like a flounder."

From <Sadly No!

It is so frigging nice to have a diversion like this. . . because most postings and news items are chilling.

I was earlier today admiring the obsessiveness of wanking on about the name of a jpg at the White House site.

Original nonsense here.

Things I wish I had written

You're at least a couple orders of magnitude more skilled than anyone at S,N, hilzoy. Don't confuse fleeting amusement for lasting insight. You've got the latter; the crowd at SN are just taking amusing potshots.

Thanks everyone for the kind words and for the information about Tuckerization and redshirting... this is great stuff! As Hank can attest, it can be a bit problematic to be my friend or someone I admire and wind up in one of my books. Not that many characters make it all the way through -- through no fault of mine, of course.

The Voice of Moderation: I get a lot of pleasure from peppering my stories with inside jokes (ask my friends from NoNonsenseSelfDefense.com). Weaving the Voice of Moderation into a story in a way that wouldn't distract people not in on the joke would be a challenge... but you've all given me such a warm welcome I feel encouraged to try in the book I'm working on now. Needless to say, no kittens will be hurt, either actually or fictionally, in this production.

Anarch, that's such an extreme example that I was going to suggest it needs its own moniker... but of course, the good people here were way ahead of me on that. Attach dog, indeed! FWIW, pretty much the worst people can expect if I Tuckerize them is a creatively carried out fictional death.

Jesurgislac and Ral, always good to meet fellow Eliot fans.

Publius, thank you.

Josh, the title wasn't a reference to Chris Clarke's blog (at least not a conscious one).

If you all don't mind my saying, what makes OW such a terrific blog isn't just the quality of the posts, but also the quality of the comments. I hope I'll get to meet a few of you on the road this month -- many thanks again.

I was earlier today admiring the obsessiveness of wanking on about the name of a jpg at the White House site.

we don't call Malkin "Our Lady Of Perpetual Outrage" for nothing!

Congrats on your new fame.

If you all don't mind my saying, what makes OW such a terrific blog isn't just the quality of the posts, but also the quality of the comments. I hope I'll get to meet a few of you on the road this month -- many thanks again.

Here, here. But especially the posts. The foreign policy related posts by that what's his name.

I'm afraid I looked at the prefix and something went 'ding'. Hilzoy likes SF and should know about The Naked Sun and The Caves of Steel by Isaac Asimov. Those are whodunnits featuring a unique protaganist, R. Daneel Olivaw - where R is for Robot.Guess we'll see.

" one ineffable effable effanineffable deep and inscrutable singular Name.

Them's the rules."

Sounds like something either Terry Rratchett or Neil Gaiman would say... has a Good Omens sort of ring to it....

Speaking of disappearances, McCavity's not there.

This reminded me of something Ogden Nash, I think, said. he wanted to write a poem about a relief pitcher named MacTivity, so he could put in the line, "There's MacTivity in the bullpen."

Don't blame me.

Gary,

Did you smmoooooth with Tucker, or schmooz with him?

washington monthly was so much better before you started posting there

KCinDC wrote: "Gwangung, it seems like this is not so much an in joke as a way to get blog buzz for the book. Hilzoy has obliged. Will the other bloggers do the same?"

Given the genre (which is not meant as a slight), I'd think if this was the main idea it would have made more sense to suck up to the Instapundit/Ace of Spades/Gun Counter Gomer types.

"Hilzoy likes SF"

Um, I don't think that's particularly the case.

Gary,

Did you smmoooooth with Tucker, or schmooz with him?

Both. I can't tell from this if you do or don't know what smoooothing is.

For those who don't know (and likely don't care), Bob Tucker particularly liked his Beam's Choice, and for decades enjoyed the custom of passing around a bottle to fill everyone's cup, at which point everyone would raise their non-drinking hand, and then, downing their drink, swoosh their non-drinking hand down and up again in a semi-circle, while exclaiming "Smmoooooth!"

Then we'd all go home and send Bob a brick for the Tucker Hotel.

"Given the genre (which is not meant as a slight), I'd think if this was the main idea it would have made more sense to suck up to the Instapundit/Ace of Spades/Gun Counter Gomer types."

What, only rightwingers like mysteries? Are you kidding?

I can't tell from this if you do or don't know what smoooothing is.

I know now, but I didn't before. Learn something every day around here.

I guess I should have known better than to think that you, Gary, of all people, would be so careless as to misspell schmooz so badly.

FWIW, pretty much the worst people can expect if I Tuckerize them is a creatively carried out fictional death.

That would have been preferable, yes.

I can't tell from this if you do or don't know what smoooothing is.

I do know.

"I do know."

Nah, that's just smoothing. I'm under the impression that, as a rule, less whiskey is involved.

I could, of course, be wrong.

Optimally, yes. But that all depends on your definition of "optimal".

Gary,

What smooth did you ever see a cup at? Or at least a cup that the Beams went into? Admittedly I sometimes had my beer in a glass with me but the Beams never had an intermediary.

I think fans probably gave it a name because it is just so darn common in our community. A friend named Warren Norwood named a planet after my wife and myself in one of his trilogies. It only got hit by 7 nukes in the war, which I suppose was better than some got. Wm. Mark Simmons made us characters in a series of his. Writers with ties to fan groups have named characters in a series after their fellow club members. It's a strong tradition.

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