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April 07, 2004

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Ok. I buy it. Good and true post. But remain with a question.

How can a Christian not be evangelical?

"How can a Christian not be evangelical?"

Now there's a question with fangs to it. Not your fault, of course. To weasel out of it, I'm going to say that a given Christian's answer would depend on one's feelings towards exclusive salvation, the nature of God and the proper method by which a person witnesses his or her faith.

(And how polite he or she feels like being, of course.)

Moe

And following up, I would point out that Christians of all stripes pick and choose what they want to believe from the Bible, and even among the subset of things that they believe, there are some things that they're happy to let other people put into practice. Heck, there are even people who call themselves Christian but don't believe in God -- there's one person in particular that I happen to know pretty darn well.

But it also depends on what you mean by "evangelical" -- these days it apparently connotes coercion, but the original idea was just about sharing the Good News and hoping/expecting that people would respond positively. There's also St. Francis' version of it: "Preach the Gospel at all times. When necessary, use words."

Ah, St. Francis: my favorite Catholic pagan. I picked him for Confirmation, you know. :)

So, Moe, the fact that the Bushies push policies like eliminating abortion, banning same sex relationships(1), promoting religion in government, and busting us porn-viewers - all of which seems religiously motivated - that is just coincidence?

(1)-Specifically, pushing sodomy laws and a constitutional amendment which will outlaw a good chunk of equal protection for gay and lesbian people.

You should really get that jerking knee looked at, Mithras: any self-respecting fundamentalist would laugh in your face at the notion that the Bush administration had an abortion elimination policy, banning same-sex relationships and busting porn-viewers; no political party would ever even dare look like they're doing the first, your definition of the second doesn't match up with common usage and by all accounts Ashcroft's more interested in going after the purveyors of porn, which (as the comments section of a recent thread demonstrates) is a bit more problematical. I repeat: I know what the fundamentalists look like, and I know what the fundamentalist crazies look like. Ain't these guys, although the aforementioned Attorney General comes closest.

Sorry that this wasn't more polite, but then again, neither was your comment. :)

Mithras, there's a difference between a theocracy and a nation whose leaders use religion as a guideline for behavior in leadership.

(Interestingly - and apropos of little, I'm afraid - the commonly-accepted etymology for "religion" has the word coming from Latin religere, "to bind" - which has as another cognate "religate", which means not only "to bind together, as a community" but "to constrict" - as a set of beliefs or course of action.)

I would agree with KenB's post - I think that the example one sets by one's approach to life, other people and God is evangelical.

Sorry, KenB, if this wasn't what you meant!

EDG - The word 'religion' comes from Latin's 'religio'; more than that cannot be said with certainty. 'ReligAre' is generally considered more likely than 'religEre' (the former having the definitions you ascribe, amongst others - since it's an augmented verb, it's open to a wide variety of translations), which is more to do with considering. Both verbs come from 'legere' which strictly means to pick up or gather.

James - you're absolutely correct; I meant "religare". Cicero takes "religio" from "religere", but many modern scholars - including my Classical Studies professors - prefer "religare". I was skipping over the confusion for the sake of brevity, which I see now may not have been the wisest course of action. :)

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