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February 23, 2004

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Moe,

Nice post, but for part deaux I think your assumption is slightly off. Namely, that "progressives" (or liberals or what the hell ever) don't like Kerry b/c of his platforms. I think it is much more to do w/ his vote for the Iraq resolution which was perceived as a self-serving betrayal by someone who they thought they could count on. (And don't get them started on Dick Gephardt.)

On the other hand, that could just be me projecting. But you know, it sounds good so I'm gonna go w/ it.

"I think it is much more to do w/ his vote for the Iraq resolution which was perceived as a self-serving betrayal by someone who they thought they could count on. (And don't get them started on Dick Gephardt.)"

That's a take I hadn't considered... although I don't know if it changes the final bit of advice all that much.

Well, I think the corrollary to said vote is that it was our guy bending over for the GOP, yet again.

The early campaigning by Kerry et al gave no sign that they would be any different on the campaign trail come the general election.

Then Dean came along, and long story short, the other campaigns started to pick up some of his rhetoric. (Along w/ other things that made the rhetoric seem a) useful at the time and b) not fatal later)

So now Kerry, especially after last weekend, has put the GOP in its place (the head of the RNC saying "we have repreatedly praised his patriotism"), so to speak.

I think that is what the progressives were looking for, at least the serious ones. After all, we've ('we' being the progressives) all seen The American President, and I think we all agree that Micheal Douglass' final speech is what we've been waiting to hear for a long time. Dean did it in the primaries, and if Kerry does it in the general, then I couldn't be happier with him.

How many people don't go into an election hoping for the best they can get out of a field of imperfect candidates? As a strident ABB-er, I don't feel I'm loosening my standards anymore than any other election. For more of us, ABB isn't broadly literal -- we wouldn't vote for Saddam Hussein or Godzilla if they happened to be the Democratic opponent. But what we saw was a huge field of people who would be better presidents than Bush. For some, like me, there were certain exceptions, such as Sharpton or Kucinich, whose nature as a cosmic joke far outstrips his principals (plus I'm a lib, not a leftist, and think a Department of Peace is a really silly proposal as proposed), but they were so marginal as to not merit mention. Then there were candidates that even the non-Blue Dogs of us wouldn't support over many Republicans, such as, for me, Gephardt, but would probably end up supporting over Bush because we really are that displeased with the way things have gone and would rather cast a wild die. So, ta-da, ABB, which seems like a wild-eyed mantra (and, in some cases, is) for most is just a practical look at the field.

"So now Kerry, especially after last weekend, has put the GOP in its place (the head of the RNC saying "we have repreatedly praised his patriotism"), so to speak."

Man, did that little episode look different from over here. :)

But if you guys here are genuinely relaxed, relieved and ready to go Waltzing Matilda for Kerry, I'm glad to hear it. Sometimes the posts end up being written for the Google searchers anyway...

For me, there are two problems with Kerry (no, three - he's ugly, but that never stopped Steven Tyler): his past record and his foreign policy.

His Vietnam-protest years are a liability in the WoT, so he'll have to overcome that in the general, or the incumbent's own Vietnam years have to become more of a liability.

Kerry's foreign policy, vis a vis al Qaeda & Iraq especially, are currently undefined. I don't buy the "waffling" meme on Kerry, as you'll find the same seeming contradictions in the career of any longtime legislator. But very much of Kerry's chances in the general will turn on how much credibility he's able to bring to this issue.

And full disclosure - if his platform turns out to be withdrawal from Iraq and downsizing the military, I'll have severe misgivings about voting for him, ABB as I am.

What Dems in general need to do most of all is steal the military from Bush & the GOP. The post-Carter brotherhood-in-vengeance between the GOP & the armed forces is probably the sine qua non for GOP success in the red states. Under Bush, that happy relationship is strained, to say the least.

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